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Post by usmcbrat on Mar 15, 2018 15:32:49 GMT
I could also probably use to rewatch the last episode or two from the first season. I was a bit slow getting back into it, but it was good. They really should have shot Emma without warning, but I guess they had to be good guys. I agree they they should have shot Emma - but she is probably going to be important to future plot points.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 15, 2018 17:49:23 GMT
I could also probably use to rewatch the last episode or two from the first season. I was a bit slow getting back into it, but it was good. They really should have shot Emma without warning, but I guess they had to be good guys. I agree they they should have shot Emma - but she is probably going to be important to future plot points. Just talking strategically at that particular moment: Emma has her gun trained on the Curies, Lucy's mom didn't have a gun in her hand. Shoot Emma with a head shot (he's supposed to be a good enough shot), redirect gun at Lucy's mom. Suddenly they have control of both capsules, though only one pilot so they blow up the lifeboat, take control of the main one, and the only issue is what to do with Lucy's mom with the 3 person limit. The only reason not to do it is because it would probably leave them with very little reason for any time travel in the show.
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Post by llyan on Mar 15, 2018 18:18:08 GMT
I agree they they should have shot Emma - but she is probably going to be important to future plot points. Just talking strategically at that particular moment: Emma has her gun trained on the Curies, Lucy's mom didn't have a gun in her hand. Shoot Emma with a head shot (he's supposed to be a good enough shot), redirect gun at Lucy's mom. Suddenly they have control of both capsules, though only one pilot so they blow up the lifeboat, take control of the main one, and the only issue is what to do with Lucy's mom with the 3 person limit. The only reason not to do it is because it would probably leave them with very little reason for any time travel in the show.LOL and there's your answer why they didn't! In all reality though, they should have done what you said Seldon. What I want to know though, is when do they put Lucy's great-grandfather back in time? He has to go back at some point or else he won't have fathered Lucy's grandparent and thus Lucy would cease to exist ala Marty McFly in back to the future.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 15, 2018 18:32:25 GMT
Just talking strategically at that particular moment: Emma has her gun trained on the Curies, Lucy's mom didn't have a gun in her hand. Shoot Emma with a head shot (he's supposed to be a good enough shot), redirect gun at Lucy's mom. Suddenly they have control of both capsules, though only one pilot so they blow up the lifeboat, take control of the main one, and the only issue is what to do with Lucy's mom with the 3 person limit. The only reason not to do it is because it would probably leave them with very little reason for any time travel in the show. LOL and there's your answer why they didn't! In all reality though, they should have done what you said Seldon. What I want to know though, is when do they put Lucy's great-grandfather back in time? He has to go back at some point or else he won't have fathered Lucy's grandparent and thus Lucy would cease to exist ala Marty McFly in back to the future. I wouldn't be so sure about that. They went back to save him, so he had probably died there previously. Susanna Thompson, who plays Lucy's mom, is 60 and they grabbed her grandfather from 100 years ago (1918). It's not unrealistic for Lucy's grandfather to have been in his 40's when her mother was born, especially not if he was rich and powerful.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 27, 2018 3:41:54 GMT
S2E03 Not sure they could have come up with a more obvious 'surprise' ending. The thing they really missed though, someone needed to say, "That's Hedley!" somewhere.
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Post by usmcbrat on Apr 2, 2018 15:10:30 GMT
S2E03 Not sure they could have come up with a more obvious 'surprise' ending. The thing they really missed though, someone needed to say, "That's Hedley!" somewhere. I finally caught up with this episode, and of course, it had to be this way. I'm betting Rittenhouse had something to do with it. And yes, "That's Hedley!" was in the back of my mind.
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Post by usmcbrat on Apr 13, 2018 19:22:17 GMT
So, I finally caught up with the last episode. Am I alone in thinking that Jess is a Rittenhouse agent? Wyatt is an idiot.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 15, 2018 5:11:50 GMT
So, I finally caught up with the last episode. Am I alone in thinking that Jess is a Rittenhouse agent? Wyatt is an idiot. Definitely not alone. Would have been better if they hadn't found the main ship had jumped and it turned out Hedy's renewed patent and subsequent corporation had caused the change.
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Post by usmcbrat on May 22, 2018 15:28:09 GMT
Finally got caught up with the finale. All I can say is "Wow!". I really hope this gets renewed. I thought the actress that played Harriett Tubman was amazing. I almost didn't recognize Matt Lantner at the very end, and so many questions. And to quote Captain Janeway "I hate temporal mechanics!"
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Post by Hari Seldon on May 24, 2018 13:23:05 GMT
Finally got caught up with the finale. All I can say is "Wow!". I really hope this gets renewed. I thought the actress that played Harriett Tubman was amazing. I almost didn't recognize Matt Lantner at the very end, and so many questions. And to quote Captain Janeway "I hate temporal mechanics!" Even though he was dead, I had this feeling Rufus was going to be the one stepping out of the pod somewhat aged (like the ending of Back to the Future III with the train). I'm wondering how many seats it has now.
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Post by usmcbrat on May 24, 2018 14:47:49 GMT
Finally got caught up with the finale. All I can say is "Wow!". I really hope this gets renewed. I thought the actress that played Harriett Tubman was amazing. I almost didn't recognize Matt Lantner at the very end, and so many questions. And to quote Captain Janeway "I hate temporal mechanics!" Even though he was dead, I had this feeling Rufus was going to be the one stepping out of the pod somewhat aged (like the ending of Back to the Future III with the train). I'm wondering how many seats it has now. I fully expected to see Rufus step out of the lifeboat as well. Maybe not aged - but that would have been cool! If the show comes back - Rufus will be back. He is an integral character, and I very much like seeing history from his POV. I do wonder how many seats it has - it would be cool to see Agent Christopher on a mission - I wonder if she will bring her knitting
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Post by Hari Seldon on May 25, 2018 1:50:54 GMT
Even though he was dead, I had this feeling Rufus was going to be the one stepping out of the pod somewhat aged (like the ending of Back to the Future III with the train). I'm wondering how many seats it has now. I fully expected to see Rufus step out of the lifeboat as well. Maybe not aged - but that would have been cool! If the show comes back - Rufus will be back. He is an integral character, and I very much like seeing history from his POV. I do wonder how many seats it has - it would be cool to see Agent Christopher on a mission - I wonder if she will bring her knitting I'm sure Rufus would be back - the mission is to save him after all, though with Jiya able to pilot now, he becomes less essential. That also brings up the point of who was piloting the future pod that came back. I know it's absurd, but I'd like to see them take the younger Agent Christopher on a mission or two. Back to Jiya, three years living in Chinatown appears to have come with some martial arts training, though she showed some skills before that, so I'm wondering if she's known it the whole time or if she might have started her training within her visions.
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Post by usmcbrat on Jun 22, 2018 19:15:56 GMT
deadline.com/2018/06/timeless-cancelred-nbc-2-seasons-series-finale-movie-1202383188/I'm very bummed! ‘Timeless’ Canceled By NBC After 2 Seasons, Might Get Series Finale Movie by Nellie Andreeva • tip
June 22, 2018 8:00am
But what about Rufus? This is bad news for Timeless fans — for a second consecutive year, NBC has canceled the time-travel series. This time, NBC postponed the renewal decision until after the May upfronts; it comes just days before the options of the series’ cast are set to expire.
That was in part because the network and Timeless producer Sony Pictures TV had been discussing doing a two-hour movie that would resolve the cliffhanger in the recent Season 2 finale and wrap the stories on the show, giving fans closure. I hear the two sides have not been able to make the economics work so far but conversations continue, and NBC appears interested.
Sony TV is known for fighting for its shows. The studio already tried shopping Timeless to other buyers and is expected to explore every avenue, but I hear it is not planning to extend the cast’s options, which expire June 30, as it is pretty costly. If a movie materializes, everyone will have to make a new deal, but given how invested all stars of the show have been, engaging the fans on social media, that likely won’t be a problem.
“Behind the scenes, Sony has been trying hard to set it up elsewhere, but no luck so far,” co-creator Eric Kripke said on Twitter. “I think this 2 hour movie is our best shot. We’re ready to make it if @nbc really wants it.”
Doing two-hour movie finales is very expensive as it involves ramping up production and reassembling a team with little financial upside for the series’ network or studio. The economics are especially challenging on broadcast TV; the only series that has done it in the past decade or so was CBS’ CSI, which already had made a ton of money for CBS parent CBS Corp., spawning a billion-dollar franchise for CBS TV Studios. On SVOD, Netflix recently did it with its cult sci-fi drama series Sense8.
And also for the second year in a row, the series ended its season finale with a massive cliffhanger. SPOILER ALERT. In the Season 2 ender, soldier Wyatt (Matt Lanter) and historian Lucy (Abigail Spencer) return from their latest mission without their trusted engineer Rufus (Malcolm Barrett), who was killed. But in a last-second twist, an upgraded Lifeboat shows up with future versions of Wyatt and Lucy emerging to ask, “You guys want to get Rufus back or what?”
NBC first canceled Timeless in May 2017. With solid time-shifting lifts, the drama had averaged an OK 2.2 Live+7 adults 18-49 rating. It didn’t find a wide audience, but Timeless’ fans base was strong, passionate and very vocal over the cancellation. So strong that three days later, NBC reversed its decision and brought the show back with a 10-episode second-season order.
Timeless returned for Season 2 on March 1 with a 0.8 in 18-49 and 3 million viewers (Live+same day), off by a fraction from its Season 1 finale (0.9, 3.4 million), which was a series high. But overall, numbers were down.
“We are hopeful and yet realistic as we have a lot of shows,” NBC boss Bob Greenblatt cautioned on May 13 ahead of Timeless‘ Season 2 finale. “We are going to take a look at [Timeless and Champions] after their run and hopefully make a quick decision on them.”
Timeless creators and cast urged fans to watch the finale live. Even with the campaign, Timeless’ two-hour Season 2 ending averaged modest 0.6 adults 18-49 ratings and 2.4 million viewers in Live+same day. While up 20% in the demo over its previous episode, and the best the series had done since mid-March, Timeless was down 33% from its Season 1 finale.
Last June, Timeless was among the five programs selected to receive tax credits from California’s incentive program. Relocating from Vancouver to Los Angeles for its sophomore season, the series scored an allocation of nearly $9.6 million in credits.
Still, the series is very expensive — it deals with time-travel and depicts a different period every week, after all — so another short order always was a difficult financial proposition. And NBC already used its Get Out of Cancellation Jail card on Brooklyn Nine-Nine this year.
Created by Erik Kripke & Shawn Ryan, Timeless launched with a mysterious criminal stealing a secret state-of-the-art time machine, intent on destroying America as we know it by changing the past. It then was up to a soldier (Lanter), a history professor (Spencer) and a scientist (Barrett) to use the machine’s prototype to travel back in time to critical events. Goran Visnjic, Paterson Joseph, Sakina Jaffrey and Claudia Doumit co-starred.
Produced by Davis Entertainment, Kripke Enterprises and MiddKid Productions in association with Sony Pictures Television, Timeless is exec produced by Kripke, Ryan, John Davis, John Fox, Marney Hochman and Neill Marshall.
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Post by llyan on Jul 31, 2018 16:38:21 GMT
HAH. It's not dead yet!
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Post by usmcbrat on Jul 31, 2018 19:09:42 GMT
Wow! Rufus has a chance! They have a lot to do in two hours. Save Rufus, destroy Rittenhouse, get back Lucy's sister, show us how Lucy and Flynn meet, resolve the baby drama - it will be a heck of a two hours!
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