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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 27, 2024 4:37:51 GMT
I believe Knight is old enough to talk to her father and tell him “the Plan” has changed… but, once again, the writers are treating her (as well as other cast/situations) like juveniles…
nas That part is probably somewhat accurate. Even as adults, Asians are loathe to feel disappointment from their parents. What isn't accurate is that even with the plan he would have a greater drive to get her to have kids. His hesitation at Jimmy already having a daughter fit with this, but I'm wondering if the writers remember about him having diabetes since I don't think it's been mentioned in over a decade. It must not have come up in the father's search as I'm sure he would have mentioned it. If Knight is the same age of 38 as Law, her clock is ticking fast (Law already has a child).
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Post by brgjoe on Mar 27, 2024 7:12:23 GMT
I think this episode was better than last week's. Not the highest bar to clear. But it was a decent sort of filler episode.
Though not without it's issues.
I also didn't quite understand why they hired Pirate Dude to take the vials. Or even if it was possible timeline wise. These guys have no problem killing people (considering how vicious that attack was on that NCIS undercover agent). Why didn't they just break into the hotel room and either grab the scientist or kill or and take the vials? Why hire some random dude to try and steal it? That didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Also that fight between trained killer and Knight and her dad. Daddy just stands there and does his little Jackie Chan pose. When the killer could have easily just taken out a gun and shot him. Speaking of guns, why didn't our team just take out their guns instead of doing that silly fight scene? And it certainly took long enough to get the cuff's on him when they did subdue him.
Also maybe it's just me. But wasn't that subplot of McGee's half sister kinda random and weird? Ok, she's his half sister because his dad gave a sperm sample. Umm..ok. But why the need to contact her out of the blue? Does she know she was a product of IVF? Probably since she's an adult now. But who knows if the parents told her? And maybe if she did know, perhaps she didn't want to know who the sperm donor was. I would be curious if I were her. But maybe she didn't care to know. Would have loved to have listened in on the phone call to her. "Hey, my dad gave a sperm sample so you are technically my half sister. Oh and I'm also a federal agent. Let's meet up over coffee, ok?" Just seemed kinda like an awkward thing to do. Especially so soon after finding out about the mystery sibling. Probably not that big of a deal -- doubt if she will ever be seen or mentioned again anyway.
Didn't like "The Plan" either. Look, dad...she's a grown woman who can make her own decisions. Besides, having lost her team and almost getting blow'd up herself can change one's outlook on life in general I would think. So back off, dude.
I did like the fact they remember McGee's does in fact have a sister. She's probably been only mentioned a half a dozen times perhaps since she was last seen (Season 4 or 5, maybe?). And I did like the actor who played Knight's dad. Even though he did play a bit of that controlling Asian stereotype. At least he wasn't a total A-hole to Jimmy. Wouldn't mind seeing her dad return.
Kind of a middling sort of episode. Gave it a C-.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 27, 2024 16:41:58 GMT
Also maybe it's just me. But wasn't that subplot of McGee's half sister kinda random and weird? Ok, she's his half sister because his dad gave a sperm sample. Umm..ok. But why the need to contact her out of the blue? Does she know she was a product of IVF? Probably since she's an adult now. But who knows if the parents told her? And maybe if she did know, perhaps she didn't want to know who the sperm donor was. I would be curious if I were her. But maybe she didn't care to know. Would have loved to have listened in on the phone call to her. "Hey, my dad gave a sperm sample so you are technically my half sister. Oh and I'm also a federal agent. Let's meet up over coffee, ok?" Just seemed kinda like an awkward thing to do. Especially so soon after finding out about the mystery sibling. Probably not that big of a deal -- doubt if she will ever be seen or mentioned again anyway. The picture Kacie pulled up in the lab showed the half sister had two moms. Unless she has a degree in gender theory, she knows there was a male donor involved with her conception. McGee found out about her because she was on the DNA website, which makes it likely she was trying to find out something about her unknown father. I haven't done the DNA thing or even registered on any ancestry website, but I'm sure she got some sort of notification (text or email) that she had a new match in the system, so the call probably wasn't a big surprise.
Whether there will be a future mention or even a physical appearance by the half sister is a legit question. Back when his real sister was introduced, there were pictures a few episodes earlier that Tony found without McGee's permission. Hopefully the half sister won't turn up thinking she killed a sailor too.
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Post by brgjoe on Mar 28, 2024 4:50:57 GMT
Ok, I didn't look at the photo closely. Just figured instead of two moms those were just other siblings of that woman.
My point still stands though. I don't know if she would be thrilled to see the offspring of her sperm donor dad or not. Again, since I am a curious type I probably would. But that doesn't mean that she would feel the same way.
Just seemed a bit of a weird plotline to me. YMMV.
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Post by luckysmom on Mar 28, 2024 10:15:04 GMT
I agree. Thought it was strange.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 28, 2024 14:05:34 GMT
Ok, I didn't look at the photo closely. Just figured instead of two moms those were just other siblings of that woman.
My point still stands though. I don't know if she would be thrilled to see the offspring of her sperm donor dad or not. Again, since I am a curious type I probably would. But that doesn't mean that she would feel the same way.
Just seemed a bit of a weird plotline to me. YMMV. It is a weird plotline, with two possible reasons to be in there - either something more significant will happen with her in a future episode or they needed to fill a few extra minutes. Filling a few extra minutes is actually how McGee became a regular on the show. He was only supposed to be in his first episode, then they had an episode that came up a few minutes short and called him in to do a few filler scenes, then it happened a second time, and they decided to just keep him around.
As for the half sister, I'll stick with what I said, that she did that DNA thing because she wanted to find out about her mystery father. The part I disagree with is the actual phone call as the website should have something like a "request contact" button that tells the person they have a family member interested in making contact and gives them the option to accept or decline.
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Post by nas on Mar 28, 2024 18:51:13 GMT
@ brgjoe and Hari:
I’ve read your posts a couple of times and have come to the opinion that this episode really was very poorly written… you are much more diplomatic and kinder with your words than I (and Maxine) would have been…
from using the doofus Pirate Guy to steal the vials to McGee’s unknown sibling the entire episode was really dumb…
~ why would the bad guys pay some kid to do a job that they obviously could have done? break into the room and take the goods yourself, dummies! and why would a third rate motel require photo ID for a room? pay cash if you’re gonna commit a crime, dude! (I’ve stayed in some mighty fine establishments in my time here in the States and Mexico and have never had my driver license photoed to check-in; passport was required in Europe, however…)
~ it’s obvious you know more about genealogy/DNA testing than the writers did, Hari… they wrote it as if all McGee had to do was pick up the phone and, voilà, he connects with his sib! and she apparently is geographically close enuf for them to get together for coffee! a thought in the back of my mind: I don’t remember much about McGee’s father, except that he was an uptight basterd, so does he seem like the kind of person who would be a sperm donor for a lesbian couple in need? seriously? 🤷♀️
btw, don’t expect to see the unknown sib anytime soon - if ever… this 10 episode “arc” (arc? 😂) is coming to an end soon…
well, without intending to I guess I wrote a critique of this episode after all, and have come to the same conclusion I usually do - it was 👎…
nas
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 28, 2024 19:34:20 GMT
and why would a third rate motel require photo ID for a room? pay cash if you’re gonna commit a crime, dude! (I’ve stayed in some mighty fine establishments in my time here in the States and Mexico and have never had my driver license photoed to check-in; passport was required in Europe, however…)
~ it’s obvious you know more about genealogy/DNA testing than the writers did, Hari… they wrote it as if all McGee had to do was pick up the phone and, voilà, he connects with his sib! and she apparently is geographically close enuf for them to get together for coffee! a thought in the back of my mind: I don’t remember much about McGee’s father, except that he was an uptight basterd, so does he seem like the kind of person who would be a sperm donor for a lesbian couple in need? seriously? 🤷♀️ nas
With the ID, perhaps it was to check his age. They may have a minimum age for getting a room, most likely 21, though I do recall running into car rentals requiring even higher than that. I've been asked to see my ID at checkin, and have no idea if they might have a scanner under the counter that I didn't see. As for calling the sibling, I figured Kacie probably provided her number rather than the DNA place. I suppose that part of it could be rather creepy for her. Nothing was said about the couple, but the first thing that popped into my head was that she had worked for him during active duty. It was probably while the armed forces were doing Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell" era, but she could easily have been a civilian employee at the base.
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Post by nas on Mar 28, 2024 19:45:53 GMT
re times/dates/era: I think you’re way overthinking this, Hari, but if that be the case, I still ask the question, “Does McGee’s father seem like the type who would be a sperm donor - or even have the conversation with the woman/couple?” personally, I doubt it…
nas
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Post by verdun on Mar 28, 2024 20:23:30 GMT
re times/dates/era: I think you’re way overthinking this, Hari, but if that be the case, I still ask the question, “Does McGee’s father seem like the type who would be a sperm donor - or even have the conversation with the woman/couple?” personally, I doubt it…
nas
No, Admiral McGee (as portrayed by either actor) does not strike me as a sperm donor.Excellent point.
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