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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 17, 2024 1:05:23 GMT
this is the only “more” I’m going to write, and that’s it; the rest of the episode is just not worth wasting my time to review:
{Spoiler Warning - Click Here} isn’t it amazing that within 20 seconds of entering Lindsey’s hotel room Torres spots the 🥾🥾 with the tar covered soles - just shoved under the bed?! 🤨 she may have been a “genius” sniper, bomb maker, etc., etc., but she was too stupid to ditch the footwear? oh, please... nas
To be fair, I saw the boots and thought she did a bad job of hiding a guy under the bed.
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Post by llyan on Apr 17, 2024 2:00:45 GMT
To be fair, I saw the boots and thought she did a bad job of hiding a guy under the bed. Until I saw the tar on the boots, I thought the same thing Hari Seldon !
I haven’t done this for a while but felt like this episode warranted some random thoughts as I rewatched the episode. Overall, I really enjoyed the episode. It wasn’t a ground-breaking case, but it was a nice homage to Yankee White and the show as a whole.
- Jared has been MIA since Homesick (11x13). I appreciate that they gave us a reason that Jared hasn’t been seen. His relationship with his father has been strained since Jackie was killed. Given the trauma of losing his mother at a young age, it makes sense.
- Curtis is still weird. I’m not sure I can buy the idea of him being a field agent. But he is an interesting character.
- 1000 yards is 3000 feet or more than a half mile away. No wonder the sniper didn’t kill Vance. It’s a bit of a stretch that anyone could hit a target at that distance, let alone someone who started shooting lessons only 3 months ago. But I get that this was their means of working ‘1000’ into the episode to match the 1000th episode. If it wasn't a milestone episode, I'd be rolling my eyes. Given who her father was, it'd been a more reasonable explanation if they had said she had been shooting all her life.
- Explosions at Morrow’s crypt (I forgot that Kort killed him), Rachel Cranston’s office, and Fornell’s garage. Definitely a call back to Yankee White, which also ties into McGee and Torres’ conversation at the top of the episode about Air Force One.
- I liked that Vance asked McGee to take on the role of Acting Director. I know it isn’t the first time that McGee has been Acting Director. But this time there was no hesitation and within the limited scope of the episode, McGee did really well. It really showcased McGee’s growth from the green Probie that he was when he showed up for the first time in season 1.
- Fletcher Voss was played by TJ Thyne, who previously appeared on NCIS way back in Season 1, Episode 13, One Shot, One Kill. Incidentally that episode also had a sniper in it. Thyne played the warehouse manager adjacent to the recruiting office that had been shot at.
- Nice that Torres was so observant and caught the tar on the boot under the shoe and that he was able to preemptively get the drop on Lyndsey. I was afraid that he’d be distracted by Jared and there would be unnecessary drama.
- Nice job by the extras when Torres brought Lyndsey in. If looks could kill…
- Acting Director McGee now in a suit and tie. I wonder if the tie is from the early seasons when McGee wore a suit and tie more frequently? It looks familiar. Knowing the show, they don’t get rid of anything, so it could be one of his early ties.
- We got a Gibbs Rule. Very appropriate in an episode that’s been a throw back to the first episodes. It’d been better if it had been Rule 1 since Gibbs quoted that to Kate in Yankee White, but I’ll take Rule 39. It’s a good rule. Especially since it’s no coincidence that there’s been a ton of references back to Yankee White.
- If Knight was in junior high "20 years ago" in Yankee White, Knight is a little younger than Katrina is. She’d have been 13-14 in 2003, that would give her birth year to be 1989 give or take. That’s about 5 years younger than Katrina.
- I looked it up. The quote from Woodrow Wilson was a partial one. The full quote is ‘The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it.’ It’s apparently from an address to the New York Press Club in 1912 but I didn’t find any additional context for the quote. Wilson was an advocate for a smaller federal government.
- The Secret Service agent Kasie and Curtis spoke to, William Baer Junior, is a deep Easter Egg. Kate Todd’s original boss at the Secret Service was William Baer.
- The most unbelievably thing about the episode was that they could even make it that far onto the tarmac at an airport where Air Force One (and the President) was about to take off. It makes a nice story point but that’s something that would never happen in real life. They’d have been stopped long before they got close to that plane.
- NCIS not getting credit for foiling an attempted assassination of the President was a nice call back to Yankee White. They didn’t get credit in that episode either.
- The case of the week wasn’t groundbreaking but for a milestone episode, it was a good throwback to the episode that started it all. After twenty seasons, I’m honestly surprised that this is the first time that a child of the subject of a previous case made an appearance in a current case. So even though it was a massive throwback to Yankee White, kudos for something new!
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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 17, 2024 4:15:34 GMT
To be fair, I saw the boots and thought she did a bad job of hiding a guy under the bed. Until I saw the tar on the boots, I thought the same thing Hari Seldon !
I haven’t done this for a while but felt like this episode warranted some random thoughts as I rewatched the episode. Overall, I really enjoyed the episode. It wasn’t a ground-breaking case, but it was a nice homage to Yankee White and the show as a whole.
- Jared has been MIA since Homesick (11x13). I appreciate that they gave us a reason that Jared hasn’t been seen. His relationship with his father has been strained since Jackie was killed. Given the trauma of losing his mother at a young age, it makes sense.
- Curtis is still weird. I’m not sure I can buy the idea of him being a field agent. But he is an interesting character.
- 1000 yards is 3000 feet or more than a half mile away. No wonder the sniper didn’t kill Vance. It’s a bit of a stretch that anyone could hit a target at that distance, let alone someone who started shooting lessons only 3 months ago. But I get that this was their means of working ‘1000’ into the episode to match the 1000th episode. If it wasn't a milestone episode, I'd be rolling my eyes. Given who her father was, it'd been a more reasonable explanation if they had said she had been shooting all her life.
- Explosions at Morrow’s crypt (I forgot that Kort killed him), Rachel Cranston’s office, and Fornell’s garage. Definitely a call back to Yankee White, which also ties into McGee and Torres’ conversation at the top of the episode about Air Force One.
- I liked that Vance asked McGee to take on the role of Acting Director. I know it isn’t the first time that McGee has been Acting Director. But this time there was no hesitation and within the limited scope of the episode, McGee did really well. It really showcased McGee’s growth from the green Probie that he was when he showed up for the first time in season 1.
- Fletcher Voss was played by TJ Thyne, who previously appeared on NCIS way back in Season 1, Episode 13, One Shot, One Kill. Incidentally that episode also had a sniper in it. Thyne played the warehouse manager adjacent to the recruiting office that had been shot at.
- Nice that Torres was so observant and caught the tar on the boot under the shoe and that he was able to preemptively get the drop on Lyndsey. I was afraid that he’d be distracted by Jared and there would be unnecessary drama.
- Nice job by the extras when Torres brought Lyndsey in. If looks could kill…
- Acting Director McGee now in a suit and tie. I wonder if the tie is from the early seasons when McGee wore a suit and tie more frequently? It looks familiar. Knowing the show, they don’t get rid of anything, so it could be one of his early ties.
- We got a Gibbs Rule. Very appropriate in an episode that’s been a throw back to the first episodes. It’d been better if it had been Rule 1 since Gibbs quoted that to Kate in Yankee White, but I’ll take Rule 39. It’s a good rule. Especially since it’s no coincidence that there’s been a ton of references back to Yankee White.
- If Knight was in junior high "20 years ago" in Yankee White, Knight is a little younger than Katrina is. She’d have been 13-14 in 2003, that would give her birth year to be 1989 give or take. That’s about 5 years younger than Katrina.
- I looked it up. The quote from Woodrow Wilson was a partial one. The full quote is ‘The history of liberty is a history of resistance. The history of liberty is a history of the limitation of governmental power, not the increase of it.’ It’s apparently from an address to the New York Press Club in 1912 but I didn’t find any additional context for the quote. Wilson was an advocate for a smaller federal government.
- The Secret Service agent Kasie and Curtis spoke to, William Baer Junior, is a deep Easter Egg. Kate Todd’s original boss at the Secret Service was William Baer.
- The most unbelievably thing about the episode was that they could even make it that far onto the tarmac at an airport where Air Force One (and the President) was about to take off. It makes a nice story point but that’s something that would never happen in real life. They’d have been stopped long before they got close to that plane.
- NCIS not getting credit for foiling an attempted assassination of the President was a nice call back to Yankee White. They didn’t get credit in that episode either.
- The case of the week wasn’t groundbreaking but for a milestone episode, it was a good throwback to the episode that started it all. After twenty seasons, I’m honestly surprised that this is the first time that a child of the subject of a previous case made an appearance in a current case. So even though it was a massive throwback to Yankee White, kudos for something new!
Curtis is definitely strange, but outside of McGee the show portrays anyone who can use a computer for more than email as strange. I don't know how long it takes to master the sniper rifle - I used one once and at 100ft I was more accurate with a 9mm - but 1000 feet isn't unrealistic. The record for a confirmed kill is over four times that distance at 4156 yards.
It's possible the writers didn't bother looking up Katrina's age and just guessed by looking at her, but it's just as possible they're making her 35 to keep the door open for her and Jimmy to have a baby.
They never would have reached the tarmac. The only airport with security that weak is the kind where most of the planes are Cessnas.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 17, 2024 4:20:05 GMT
I completely forgot about the aftershow until just now...
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Post by brgjoe on Apr 17, 2024 5:36:25 GMT
Maybe I had my hopes up a bit too high. But I was kinda hoping for more from an NCIS 1000th episode.
What I did like was all the throwback references. Remembering that Kate had a sister, for instance. And bringing back Fornell. Always great to see him again. And some of the easter eggs (great work mentioning some of them btw, llyan). Rocky Carroll's acting was superb. Loved his little speech at the end of the episode. Great stuff.
OTOH, I thought maybe this episode was a bit rushed. Like maybe it should have been a 2 parter or perhaps part of an arc. Then again, the way they have done so in the recent past, maybe it was better they just had this a standalone episode. Evil lady was quite the prodigy. She was so good at hacking she could send all those phony messages to NCIS personnel as well as somehow hack into the CEO's phone to plant virus (virii?) every time he would charge his phone. Including apparently on Air Force One. OK. And those explosions really looked kinda B-movie type cheesy. Not to mention essentially taking a summer course on "How to be a sniper in 3 easy months!" and be good enough to hit a target half a mile away. I tell ya, if you could deprogram her somehow, she'd make a heck of a government agent. All of which seemed just a tad unrealistic to me. Again, even for this show.
Also don't see why Geeksquad guy got to interrogate the CEO dude. McGee was perfectly capable of doing so. I mean, he isn't even a field agent. Probably hasn't been trained in how to interrogate suspects. To be fair I guess, I have no idea what his training has been to this point. I wonder if he is going to be the new McGee-type guy on the team in the future. Or just someone else they will just have show up from time to time when they need someone from the Tech Troll Cave.
And like some of you have mentioned, there's like no way our heroes could have even come in the neighborhood of Air Force One the way that they did. So I dunno, I like some of what I saw and some of it I was just kinda rolling my eyes. Just kind of a midling episode for me. C+ is the grade I'd probably give this one.
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Post by verdun on Apr 17, 2024 13:28:51 GMT
A very uneven episode. I particularly liked the idea of tying the 1000th franchise episode to the very first franchise episode. I liked the references back to Director Morrow, to Kate, and very much to Kate's sister (who I wish they would bring back occasionally--yeah, I know Dr. Grace has replaced her). Good to see Fornell again and to be reminded that he was in the very first episode. Kinda liked the Cave Troll guy. He worked as this episode's comic relief and especially the bit in the interrogation room when Knight has to remind him to show the exhibit to the guy being interrogated. Would like to see him back, but not a lot. He can get annoying quickly. What I didn't especially like was the main plot. The villain was just too competent at everything (why hadn't the CIA grabbed her up if she was that good at everything? Who needs John Clark when they have her?). Having said all that I loved the confrontation with the airplane. OK, it was absurd and silly but it reminded me very much of old time Westerns with the sheriff and his deputies standing on main street confronting the bad guys in what was going to be a heck of a shoot-out. Especially liked holding the badges on high (whattaya mean "We don't gotta show you no stinkin' badges"?). Goofy, silly, but somehow a perfect moment for this episode.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 17, 2024 14:09:05 GMT
What I did like was all the throwback references. Remembering that Kate had a sister, for instance. And bringing back Fornell. Always great to see him again. And some of the easter eggs (great work mentioning some of them btw, llyan ). Rocky Carroll's acting was superb. Loved his little speech at the end of the episode. Great stuff.
OTOH, I thought maybe this episode was a bit rushed. Like maybe it should have been a 2 parter or perhaps part of an arc. Then again, the way they have done so in the recent past, maybe it was better they just had this a standalone episode. Evil lady was quite the prodigy. She was so good at hacking she could send all those phony messages to NCIS personnel as well as somehow hack into the CEO's phone to plant virus (virii?) every time he would charge his phone. Including apparently on Air Force One. OK. And those explosions really looked kinda B-movie type cheesy. Not to mention essentially taking a summer course on "How to be a sniper in 3 easy months!" and be good enough to hit a target half a mile away. I tell ya, if you could deprogram her somehow, she'd make a heck of a government agent. All of which seemed just a tad unrealistic to me. Again, even for this show.
Also don't see why Geeksquad guy got to interrogate the CEO dude. McGee was perfectly capable of doing so. I mean, he isn't even a field agent. Probably hasn't been trained in how to interrogate suspects. To be fair I guess, I have no idea what his training has been to this point. I wonder if he is going to be the new McGee-type guy on the team in the future. Or just someone else they will just have show up from time to time when they need someone from the Tech Troll Cave. Definitely great to see Fornell, though when Parker was introduced, Fornell only knew him by reputation and now they're apparently best buddies (ok, I guess Tobias needed someone to fill the gap when Gibbs moved away). Also, when he said he was always bailing out NCIS, McGee really should have responded that half the time it was the other way around rather than agreeing.
I'm pretty sure the CEO gave the lady access to his phone to plant the virus, but transmitting a virus through the power cord is complete bunk. While you probably could make the phone send the virus through the power cable, the receiving device would have to be set up to input data through a power cord, which doesn't happen with anything not using USB charging. I went over how BS it was back when they had a laptop do it almost 10 years ago (where Abby goes to the trouble of putting it in a Faraday cage, but doesn't run it off battery).
As for deprogramming the lady, she's just avenging her father, not actually taking up his cause. And really, the tech troll dropped the ball when he was verifying her identity to see if Jared was being catfished - a name change should really stick out among the other data he gathered.
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Post by luckysmom on Apr 19, 2024 1:14:49 GMT
I just watched it now and I enjoyed it. I liked the throwbacks
The on line girlfriend did seem a little obvious. I actually thought there was a person under the bed until I saw the tar on the shoes.
I enjoyed the tie ins to the past and the flashbacks at the end.
I enjoyed the sniper references ... have not heard "police his brass" since Gibbs ...
llyan I enjoyed your synopsis and this statement sums it up for me too
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Post by BobNOTinValencia on Apr 23, 2024 18:43:29 GMT
The episode certainly wasn't worthy of the hype, though it could have been worse. Without giving too much away, it seems odd the villain wouldn't go after Gibbs first, though we all know that's because MH doesn't want to appear. The 'explosions' were pathetic to put it mildly. On the good side, I'm glad they didn't go back to Ari, though I don't think the guy from Yankee White was even given a name in the episode.The girl was certainly an overachiever - sniper, bomb maker, master programmer, and able to get in and out of all sorts of places without being seen. You'd expect Fornell at least to have an advanced security system at his house. Also, as someone who has driven out onto the tarmac, I can say that Midway Airport has way way higher security to get in and I doubt Air Force One has or will ever land there (runways are probably too short) as compared to AFO's home base in DC. The fences are larger, reinforced, have two sets, and there is security right there. I can only imagine what Andrews Air Force Base has, but I have zero doubt it's more secure than MDW. Finally got a chance to watch this one - wife was in the hospital last week, so I will throw a few comments in... First, as for the explosions, I don't think that they were really meant to "shock and awe", just misdirect the investigation. Same with sending EVERYBODY a Bandium alert. Speaking of Bandium - odd that some super-duper system like that would stoop so low as to have a dating site element, but I suppose that there is money to be made in the online dating world.
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Post by BobNOTinValencia on Apr 23, 2024 18:45:47 GMT
this is the only “more” I’m going to write, and that’s it; the rest of the episode is just not worth wasting my time to review:
{Spoiler Warning - Click Here} isn’t it amazing that within 20 seconds of entering Lindsey’s hotel room Torres spots the 🥾🥾 with the tar covered soles - just shoved under the bed?! 🤨 she may have been a “genius” sniper, bomb maker, etc., etc., but she was too stupid to ditch the footwear? oh, please...
nas
I think that was more hubris on her part rather than stupidity or carelessness. She didn't think that they would track her down that quickly/easily. Hence, taking a shower with incriminating clothing just strewn about.
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