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Post by concisfan on Mar 29, 2017 15:09:23 GMT
My favorite thing about this episode were Bruce McGill and Duane Henry. Nice performances by both actors. I really hope we see more of Reeves. The Quinn/Torres thing was okay. McGee and Bishop were exhibiting pretty normal behavior for NCIS. They're always nosing into each other's love lives. BTW NewBe, tofu steak is actually pretty good.
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Post by verdun on Mar 29, 2017 15:36:24 GMT
As a Viet Nam vet myself, I understood and sympathized with McGill's character (BTW isn't he one heck of a good actor?) and liked the subplot with him. I went through some of the same things. As for the main case my wife and I both figured "whodunit" because it's always someone who appears to be either a throw away character (like this episode) or someone who just simply couldn't have done it for whatever reason (they were out of town, etc). Could have done without the Quinn/Torres bit. Juvenile.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 29, 2017 23:01:15 GMT
Okay,
I tried to watch this one again today. Couldn't do it. It is that bad. Will probably go down in my overall list of show rankings scraping the bottom of the barrel.
It's really is a shame also. I love the shows where they deal with older vets, "Shooter" is one of those good ones. And dealing with the wall is especially close to me. I had cousins who served in Vietnam. A couple of them we've lost due to substance abuse as a result of their time over there. A few years ago we lost another one due to his exposure to "Agent Orange". I've never served in the military, but my family has a long history of service, and I hate that an excellent guest performance by Bruce McGill and his interactions with Duane Henry was wasted on such an awful script.
Whoever greenlit this script should be fired, even if it was Harmon himself. There really isn't any excuse for such poor execution, story telling, and overall horrendous quality for a show like NCIS.
This quite possibly could replace "Faith" as my worst NCIS episode of all time.
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Post by sukismom on Mar 30, 2017 0:14:16 GMT
I had to re-watch this before commenting. Being a child of the era, I well remember the way Vietnam vets were treated after they came home. For a generation of vets who had no choice but to serve, the treatment and the effects were criminal. Bruce McGill did a terrific job of portraying the long-term effects of the problem.
I'm really tired of the busybody nonsense. Bishop & McGee ..... MYOB!! Sticking your noses in Quinn & Torres business is so unamusing and unattractive. Dinozzo drove me nuts with that behavior. Made me glad to see him leave.
I hope that this episode is the beginning of good things for Duane Henry's character. Let's put him to honest work. Heaven forbid that the show runners try to turn him into a male version of ninja girl. Glad to see more of director Vance. Is it me or does it seem like he's been even less visible than usual?
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Mar 30, 2017 0:51:14 GMT
I had to re-watch this before commenting. Being a child of the era, I well remember the way Vietnam vets were treated after they came home. For a generation of vets who had no choice but to serve, the treatment and the effects were criminal. Bruce McGill did a terrific job of portraying the long-term effects of the problem. I'm really tired of the busybody nonsense. Bishop & McGee ..... MYOB!! Sticking your noses in Quinn & Torres business is so unamusing and unattractive. Dinozzo drove me nuts with that behavior. Made me glad to see him leave. I hope that this episode is the beginning of good things for Duane Henry's character. Let's put him to honest work. Heaven forbid that the show runners try to turn him into a male version of ninja girl. Glad to see more of director Vance. Is it me or does it seem like he's been even less visible than usual? I keep going back to that final scene. It was so beautiful that even if I hadn't liked the rest of the episode (and I did outside the snoopy McGee & Bishop part) that scene would have made everything else worth watching just to get to that point.
Gibbs seems to have an affinity for Reeves so I really am hoping he's used way more than he has been so far - let's start with adding him to the team side of the partition.
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Post by sukismom on Mar 30, 2017 18:33:34 GMT
NewBe, I am with you about the final scene. I teared right up and couldn't stop crying when Henry walked into the crowd with that look on his face. Couldn't help but think of all the vets I'd worked with and wonder how different things might have been for them if they had gotten that type of reception when they came home. It was indeed, beautiful.
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Post by caseyrook AKA Mechelle on Mar 30, 2017 22:47:42 GMT
03.06.2017
A CANTANKEROUS VIETNAM WAR VETERAN RELUCTANTLY WORKS WITH THE NCIS TEAM TO SOLVE A MARINE’S MURDER, ON “NCIS,” TUESDAY, MARCH 28 Bruce McGill Guest Stars as Vietnam War Veteran Henry Rogers“The Wall” – When a Marine is murdered at an event for the Honor Flight Network, a non-profit that arranges for veterans to visit the World War II, Korea and Vietnam War Memorials for free, the NCIS team must rely on an irritable Vietnam War veteran, Henry Rogers (Bruce McGill), to provide details on the victim’s whereabouts throughout the day. Also, McGee and Bishop investigate a juicy rumor about Quinn and Torres, on NCIS, Tuesday, March 28 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. CHEAT TWEET: The #NCIS team needs the help of a Vietnam War Veteran to solve a murder #NCIS 3/28 8pm #CBS #BruceMcGill Guest Stars bit.ly/2my9tlpREGULAR CAST:Mark Harmon (NCIS Special Agent Leroy Jethro Gibbs) Pauley Perrette (Forensic Specialist Abby Scuito) Sean Murray (NCIS Special Agent Timothy McGee) Wilmer Valderrama (NCIS Special Agent Nicholas “Nick” Torres) Jennifer Esposito (NCIS Special Agent Alexandra “Alex” Quinn) Brian Dietzen (Jimmy Palmer) Emily Wickersham (Probationary Agent Eleanor “Ellie” Bishop) Duane Henry (MI6 Officer Clayton Reeves) Rocky Carroll (NCIS Director Leon Vance) David McCallum (Dr. Donald “Ducky” Mallard) GUEST CAST:Bruce McGill (Henry Rogers) WRITTEN BY: Gina Lucita Monreal DIRECTED BY: Bethany Rooney It's so nice to see that after all this time of me not watching NCIS, the agents are still concerning themselves with Navy Yard gossip.
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fanthom8
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Post by fanthom8 on Apr 3, 2017 3:01:15 GMT
Okay,
I tried to watch this one again today. Couldn't do it. It is that bad. Will probably go down in my overall list of show rankings scraping the bottom of the barrel.
It's really is a shame also. I love the shows where they deal with older vets, "Shooter" is one of those good ones. And dealing with the wall is especially close to me. I had cousins who served in Vietnam. A couple of them we've lost due to substance abuse as a result of their time over there. A few years ago we lost another one due to his exposure to "Agent Orange". I've never served in the military, but my family has a long history of service, and I hate that an excellent guest performance by Bruce McGill and his interactions with Duane Henry was wasted on such an awful script.
Whoever greenlit this script should be fired, even if it was Harmon himself. There really isn't any excuse for such poor execution, story telling, and overall horrendous quality for a show like NCIS.
This quite possibly could replace "Faith" as my worst NCIS episode of all time. I think it's a disgrace to the men and women who lost their lives serving their country being tied in with such a stupid script, "The Wall" was dishonored by the writers of this awful episode.
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Post by fanthom8 on Apr 3, 2017 3:02:25 GMT
Okay,
I tried to watch this one again today. Couldn't do it. It is that bad. Will probably go down in my overall list of show rankings scraping the bottom of the barrel.
It's really is a shame also. I love the shows where they deal with older vets, "Shooter" is one of those good ones. And dealing with the wall is especially close to me. I had cousins who served in Vietnam. A couple of them we've lost due to substance abuse as a result of their time over there. A few years ago we lost another one due to his exposure to "Agent Orange". I've never served in the military, but my family has a long history of service, and I hate that an excellent guest performance by Bruce McGill and his interactions with Duane Henry was wasted on such an awful script.
Whoever greenlit this script should be fired, even if it was Harmon himself. There really isn't any excuse for such poor execution, story telling, and overall horrendous quality for a show like NCIS.
This quite possibly could replace "Faith" as my worst NCIS episode of all time.
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Post by fanthom8 on Apr 3, 2017 3:03:36 GMT
I think it's a disgrace to the men and women who lost their lives serving their country being tied in with such a stupid script, "The Wall" was dishonored by the writers of this awful episode.
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Post by fanthom8 on Apr 3, 2017 3:04:29 GMT
Okay,
I tried to watch this one again today. Couldn't do it. It is that bad. Will probably go down in my overall list of show rankings scraping the bottom of the barrel.
It's really is a shame also. I love the shows where they deal with older vets, "Shooter" is one of those good ones. And dealing with the wall is especially close to me. I had cousins who served in Vietnam. A couple of them we've lost due to substance abuse as a result of their time over there. A few years ago we lost another one due to his exposure to "Agent Orange". I've never served in the military, but my family has a long history of service, and I hate that an excellent guest performance by Bruce McGill and his interactions with Duane Henry was wasted on such an awful script.
Whoever greenlit this script should be fired, even if it was Harmon himself. There really isn't any excuse for such poor execution, story telling, and overall horrendous quality for a show like NCIS.
This quite possibly could replace "Faith" as my worst NCIS episode of all time.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 3, 2017 3:39:59 GMT
Trying to pad your posting count there, fanthom8 ?
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Post by verdun on Apr 3, 2017 22:41:33 GMT
I think it's a disgrace to the men and women who lost their lives serving their country being tied in with such a stupid script, "The Wall" was dishonored by the writers of this awful episode.
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Post by verdun on Apr 3, 2017 22:42:35 GMT
The names of men I served with and knew are on that wall. I did not find them "dishonored" by this script.
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Post by usmcbrat on Apr 17, 2017 16:18:33 GMT
I had totally forgotten about these critiques until I was looking for a different email. Diane and David Munson are former NCIS Agents who now are authors, and they write a weekly critique of each episode. Here is their critique of The Wall: www.dianeanddavidmunson.com/2017-mar-28-ncis-critique-of-the-wall/ 2017 Mar 28 NCIS Critique of “The Wall”Tonight’s episode was inspired when an elderly veteran took an Honor Trip to Washington, D.C. to see the monuments. His granddaughter-in law is Gina Lucita Monreal, the writer of this episode. Gina fictionalizes a Vietnam era Marine Corps Sergeant named Henry Rogers (he says he is no relation to the sweater-wearing Mr. Rogers) and tells the story through his eyes. When the active duty marine who is assigned to be his escort dies mysteriously, Henry becomes the reluctant witness who is detained against his will. British MI6 officer Clayton Reeves is assigned by Gibbs to babysit Henry. Problems develop when circumstances reveal how Henry and Officer Reeves have similar psychological hang-ups. Both are loners. Leroy Jethro Gibbs assumes the role of mediating between the two, and it begins to look like a recovery group for misfits. The investigation determines the Marine was really poisoned. The investigation that follows is used as a means to honor our nation’s veterans and also the Honor Flight Network. Such highlights are interspersed with the usual drama that unfolds as the team searches for the killer. We viewers find out more about the close-knit family the NCIS agents have become to each other. The ridiculous efforts by McGee and Bishop to determine if Torres and Quinn were once romantically linked are somewhat juvenile. It’s interesting and heartwarming how Henry (the witness) analyzes Officer Reeves and determines that he’s a loner too, which coincides with Reeves’ request to leave the NCIS team for another more dangerous overseas assignment. Gibbs as always, is one step ahead of Reeves. He sees what is developing and in a great ending, perhaps one of the best ever on the NCIS show, affirms Reeves decision to remain in the group. The most laudable part of the episode features the many older vets who’ve been traveling to the nation’s capital to pay tribute to their colleagues who gave their lives in defense of the nation. Tonight’s is a tribute to Vietnam Veteran’s and focuses on the Vietnam Memorial, a long wall made of granite and inscribed with the 58,286 Americans who died or are still missing from the Vietnam War. Many of you may have fought in that war or know soldiers and airmen who did. Many of you may have taken a piece of paper and a pencil to trace the name of a loved one as Sergeant Rogers did this evening. We have also gone to the memorial to pay our respects. Justice is finally achieved with help from the entire team. Recognition is also given to our veteran’s and active-duty military in a touching way. Kudos to the writers and producers of tonight’s show. Very well done. Be Blessed, Diane and David Munson
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