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Post by terrij58 on Apr 18, 2017 22:56:09 GMT
daughter & son-in-law are here for the week, so I won't be watching this episode tonight...
will watch it in a few days and then comment - or not...
frankly, the storyline looks like a bit of a stretch... Torres undercover in a dirt bike gang? really?
edit to add: I just saw that the sneak peek shows there's an explosion in this one! they haven't done a "ka-boom" in a long time - the writers must be slippin'...
nas Enjoy your visit.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Apr 18, 2017 23:06:35 GMT
It sounds like a lot like a plot from a 1977 episode of CHiPS. "Jon/Ponch go undercover in a dirt bike gang that harasses tourists in a small desert desert town [and reform the teens when the episode is over]". The parallel is rather funny when you consider WV was previously predicted to play Ponch if they did a remake. The prediction turned out to be wrong, which apparently was a good thing - the movie came out a few weeks ago and I was completely unaware that it had.
The writers must like the 'former undercover assignment' idea - Torres started out undercover and now has this, Gibbs had one undercover identity surface twice, and we can probably even include Tony's undercover assignment surfacing when Jeanne returned.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Apr 19, 2017 0:02:49 GMT
Just gonna sit back and watch tonight. Will chat with y'all after.
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Post by kate06460 on Apr 19, 2017 0:58:01 GMT
Is anyone going to put up a survey?
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Post by llyan on Apr 19, 2017 1:58:42 GMT
Is anyone going to put up a survey? Sorry about that. Work has me fried and totally forgot to add the poll. It's up now.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Apr 19, 2017 2:26:03 GMT
More coverup of law breaking by an agent on Gibbs team. I thought they'd done a re-set with this nonsense.
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Post by usmcbrat on Apr 19, 2017 14:36:48 GMT
New post on Diane & David Munson | Ex-Feds 2017 Apr 18 NCIS Critique of “One Book, Two Covers” by Diane and David Munson Undercover cases don’t make usually good episodes because in real life the undercover operations last long term and don’t fit well into the forty minutes plus commercials of the average episode. In tonight’s episode, One Book, Two Covers, writer David J. North used a flashback to weave one of Agent Torres’ undercover cases to spin a really good tale. In the end, the episode could have been titled “Redemption” as it featured the redemption of Agent Torres, which in many respects parallels the redemption of the life of Leroy Jethro Gibbs after a misdeed early in his career. In this episode, a young Marine joined a dirt bike gang who were robbing banks. He was killed when he was no longer of any use to them. Agent Torres discovers it’s the same gang he’d infiltrated years before as a new NCIS agent. Torres is reunited with Royce, a gang member who Torres flipped and who testified against the gang in exchange for being placed in the Witness Protection Program instead of prison. Drama escalates when Royce blackmails Torres because he knows Torres planted evidence against the gang’s leader. In the end, Gibbs confronts Torres to learn the details of Torres’ early career indiscretions. Unlike some supervisors, Gibbs refuses to report Torres’ mistake and exonerates him. A huge error occurs when Torres’ is alone with Royce in Royce’s home to confront and arrest him. Gibbs and Agent Alex Quinn are outside providing surveillance. Royce knocks Torres out and escapes on a dirt bike. Gibbs and Quinn pursue Royce and nobody goes to help Torres. At a minimum, Quinn should have gotten out of the car to check on Torres. David worked many undercover cases during his career and developed personal relationships with the criminals whom he later arrested. Some became protected witnessed. Some went to prison and later contacted Dave. There is a strange respect that develops between the hunter and the hunted. It’s not always hostile. This episode brought back many memories. Many of these experiences of David are highlighted in our suspense novel, “Facing Justice.” Despite the one flub, we give the show 5 stars, not only for the exciting action, but also for the deep and personal connection that is achieved between Gibbs and Torres. What do you think? Be Blessed, Diane and David Munson Diane and David Munson | April 18, 2017 at 10:51 pm | Tags: NCIS episode One Book Two Covers | URL: wp.me/p6XJTi-oe
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Post by usmcbrat on Apr 19, 2017 18:00:10 GMT
My own take:
Not one of my favorites. Did like that it was a bit more character driven (always a plus for me). Disliked that Torres did the wrong thing for the right reasons. I guess we always want our heroes to be above reproach, but I guess they really are human. Gibbs accepts him as part of his family and watches his back.
Had a hard time buying the "dirt bike gang", but, it was a novel idea. Kudos for Gibbs' powers of observation. Not so much for Abby. She should have recognized clay. It looked like the clay I find in my garden, and Abby should have figured it out right away.
Good thing it had been rainy in Southern California so the topography looked more like Virginia or Maryland with the greenery.
Torres should have fessed up to Gibbs that he knew Alonzo and knew where Royce lived. He is going to have to learn to trust Gibbs. Perhaps Gibbs' hearing "nothing but mumbling" on the audio recording will go a long ways towards that.
Glad there was no silly side story.
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Post by luckysmom on Apr 29, 2017 12:38:39 GMT
I have finally caught up (yeah)! This episode was ok but not a favorite by far. I was reading while watching it so I may have been distracted but the points that I disliked: Torres going over Gibbs to talk to Vance about being benched, the feeling of one person kind of going off the grid by themselves and the way the planted evidence was handled. I think I had a little more acceptance of Torres getting really wrapped up and doing it then Gibbs once again squashing it.
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