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Post by Hari Seldon on Aug 28, 2019 3:06:17 GMT
Bingo! you guessed it, NewBe!
wasn’t this one of the early chapters of As the NCIS World Turns?
you just gotta’ stop watching that soap, girl! 😂
nas
And since he thinks Ziva is dead, Tony is also probably getting things on with Elbaz. Things will get even more complicated when it is discovered that Ziva has been hiding out the last few years at the consulate of Ambassador Riker of one of the fictitious NCIS countries.
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Post by llyan on Sept 24, 2019 17:02:50 GMT
NCIS: Get the Inside Scoop on Season 17 from EPs Frank Cardea and Steven Binder on Ziva's Return, Torres and Bishop's Romance and More!
SEPTEMBER 24, 2019 – 10:05 AM – 0 COMMENTS
Of course, the big news when NCIS returns for its 17th season tonight is the return of Ziva David (Cote de Pablo), who makes a surprise return from the dead to warn Gibbs (Mark Harmon) that his life is in jeopardy.
“One of the things that we wanted to do was not just create something out of whole cloth where you’re like ‘huh?,’” executive producer Steven Binder says. “So when we came up with this backstory, we laid a little pipe ourselves once we knew we had Cote, but the initial genesis of this story was — and this is a clue — it’s something that has been part of the fabric of the show, her character and the introduction of her character from the very beginning. So, we’re playing with the DNA of Ziva David in terms of this jeopardy. This isn’t some newly created arch nemesis conspiracy theory or conspiracy that she’s tried to get out from beneath. This will tie into the lore and history of the show.”
You can read more about Ziva’s return in this previous interview with executive producers Frank Cardea and Binder. But the two show runners also talked to Parade.com about what will be happening for the rest of the characters and we have that interview here:
In a previous interview, you hinted about Torres (Wilmer Valderrama) and Bishop (Emily Wickersham) becoming an item. Will there be any movement on that budding romance possibly blossoming this season?
Steven: These issues will come up for them. Workplace romances are always fraught with complications, especially if you have someone who’s as guarded as Torres, who has been undercover and isn’t someone who shares his feelings, and Bishop who is recently divorced and is still not sure what she wants…
Frank: …And had another lover [Qasim Naasir (Rafi Silver)] killed.
Steven: Had a lover killed in the office. So, there is definitely a pull, but also a push. So, we’ll explore both of those.
Torres has really changed since he joined the team. He seems to be a little more settled down. How is he going to be changing going forward?
Frank: His character has evolved, there’s no question about it. Wilmer feels very comfortable in the character now.
Steven: He came on as a character who didn’t want to wear an NCIS jacket because he was still so paranoid because of being undercover. And then he got a little more comfortable and we saw a more humorous side of the character as he sort of fit in. I think we’re going to go back a little bit and make him a little tougher, a little more of the Torres we saw in the beginning. He’s like you’re taking a picture and you go in and out of focus until you find the right one.
Frank: And remember, he was undercover for 10 years before he came to the office.
And yet, you gave him a kind heart because I remember the episode where he won Tony’s apartment, but then he gave it to McGee (Sean Murray).
Frank: Oh, he does. He certainly does.
McGee is the senior agent now and a computer specialist, obviously. He got an offer from the corporate world last season, which also played into a storyline. Does he have bigger ambitions? Does he want his own team? Is he thinking now that he’s a dad maybe he should get a job that is a little safer?
Steven: He’s going to have a few opportunities to run the team himself this season. And he may certainly get a taste for it. When you work under a guy like Gibbs, do you want to go out from under, or are you grateful to be working with someone who is such a teacher? I don’t know that he’s quite there yet to lead. But, certainly, with his family in jeopardy last year, and there’s a chance that happens again, he may question whether this is the job for him.
Frank: Certainly, the fact that he is the senior agent below Gibbs will come to the forefront this season.
Moments that we spend with the team at home are always really enjoyable. There was that one episode where Gibbs sent everyone home, but they all ended up at the crime scene because they had questions about the case. Will you be doing more of that this season?
Steven: Yeah, we love to. I wish we had never done that episode so we could do it again. It’s great to get a form where we could explore who these people are and yet, as you pointed out, who they are is people, who when they go home, can’t stop thinking about work and they end up back at the crime scene anyway. Can’t do that again, but that would be wonderful if we could do something like that again.
Frank: We had a little taste of Delilah last season, and she’s delightful.
We also found out some big news about Sloane (Maria Bello) last season giving up a daughter for adoption. Will that be explored more?
Steven: Yeah, we’re going to definitely explore that because it’s interesting and Maria takes to it really well, I think, with her character’s take on it. The show has been on the air for so long, everyone was single and childless, and now people are falling in love, getting married and having kids.
Director Vance has a son and a daughter.
Steven: Yeah, he hasn’t had the best luck dating.
I was going to ask you about that. The woman he dated last year turned out she was investigating him for another agency. Did that put him off dating or will he get back into it this year?
Steven: I think he probably deactivated his Bumble account for a little while, for sure.
David McCallum is 85 and he commutes from New York. Is he going to still be in every episode, or not as frequently, because of the toll it takes on him? Also, was his change in job a result of his not being available as often?
Frank: He will be around almost as much as he was last year. David does commute from New York, so we shoot his episodes in little bunches, and we make some accommodations for his age. But he’s incredibly sharp and still David McCallum. The show wouldn’t be the same without him. He’s around.
Steven: There was a creative component, too; it wasn’t just a function of his age. It’s nice we have opportunities now that he’s not just stuck in autopsy to get him organically in other scenes with other characters. He’s so great if you put him in a squad room, you put him in Sloane’s office, or the director’s office and the scene just pops. It was a perfect convenience that a slightly altered schedule created an opportunity to do more things with him.
Recurring characters this season. Will RJ [Robert Wagner] be back as Senior and will the Sherlocks be returning?
Frank: RJ will be back. Not with the Sherlocks, but he will be back. Joe Spano (former FBI Agent Tobias Fornell) will definitely be back. Laura San Giacomo (Dr. Grace Confalone) will be back.
Steven: We’re introducing some and then we may be using some of the support staff at NCIS in a few episodes. We had a good history with agent Dorneget (Matt Jones). Sometimes you create these little side characters on the show and you realize there’s some gold there. So, we’re going to experiment with that a little more.
Do you ever rewatch episodes?
Frank: Yeah, we do. I actually was on a plane this weekend and I watched an episode from season 9.
Steven: What happens is you go to check something and then you end up…
Frank: …watching the entire episode.
Steven: Watching from that point on til the end because you want to see where it goes or what it looks like.
NCIS returns with all new episodes tonight at 8 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.
parade.com/926496/paulettecohn/ncis-get-the-inside-scoop-on-season-17-from-eps-frank-cardea-and-steven-binder-on-zivas-return-torres-and-bishops-romance-and-more/
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Post by nas on Sept 24, 2019 20:30:54 GMT
“budding romance”?!? what “budding romance”?
I didn’t notice any “budding romance”? did any of y’all see a “budding romance”?
and, btw, are any of these genius interviewers ever gonna ask Binder and Cardea if they’re going to address the fact that Vigilante Team Gibbs murdered Trent Kort when they thought he was responsible for “ninja-girls” death? (yeah, I didn’t think so... 😖)
nas
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Post by ballerina on Sept 24, 2019 20:38:04 GMT
“budding romance”?!? what “budding romance”?
I didn’t notice any “budding romance”? did any of y’all see a “budding romance”?
and, btw, are any of these genius interviewers ever gonna ask Binder and Cardea if they’re going to address the fact that Vigilante Team Gibbs murdered Trent Kort when they thought he was responsible for “ninja-girls” death? (yeah, I didn’t think so... 😖)
nas
nas I doubt they have any logic to what they are planning in regards to any aspect of this story. It is all pulled out of their barrel or another place I will not state print, just to give Tiva fans what they want, and apparently CDP a story she likes.
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Post by llyan on Sept 24, 2019 21:13:16 GMT
and, btw, are any of these genius interviewers ever gonna ask Binder and Cardea if they’re going to address the fact that Vigilante Team Gibbs murdered Trent Kort when they thought he was responsible for “ninja-girls” death? (yeah, I didn’t think so... 😖)
Well... when they caught up to Kort, he had just left a guy to die in a burning house and he did shoot at both Reeves and McGee. And he did say that he didn't know that Ziva was in the farmhouse, which means he admitted that he paid the goons to burn it down. And I'm pretty sure he murdered the guy that was in the house when we found him and Reeves fighting in Dead Letter (when we first met Reeves) so it wasn't like Kort was innocent when he was shot and killed. (Not that he was ever innocent. He was always a little crooked from the first time we met him.)
The team wanted to get the person who was responsible for Ziva's "death" but the only reason why he was shot, was because he raised his weapon when confronted by Team Gibbs. He went out in a suicide by cop because he finally found himself in a situation that he couldn't wriggle out of.
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Post by nas on Sept 24, 2019 21:45:04 GMT
so, what you’re saying, llyan, that shooting Kort full of holes was justified because he was a “bad guy” - and he had it coming? ergo, Team Gibbs is innocent of any wrongdoing in this matter... why bother to bring him before a court of law, when it was easier just to shoot him on the spot? (eta: when Kort raised his gun, Gibbs being the expert marksman that he is, could have shot the gun out of his hand...)
but, of course, that ending would have been boring, and not the “EPIC” finale that TK got (as DDFisher described it )…
nas
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Post by larue1872 on Sept 24, 2019 23:15:22 GMT
I have to admit I laughed at that scene. The way they were standing around him, in the real world he simply could have ducked and they all would have shot each other. Bullets missing their target, bullets going through him, in the real world, they would have shot each other anyway.
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Post by terrij58 on Sept 25, 2019 13:21:29 GMT
I have to admit I laughed at that scene. The way they were standing around him, in the real world he simply could have ducked and they all would have shot each other. Bullets missing their target, bullets going through him, in the real world, they would have shot each other anyway.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Sept 30, 2019 13:46:01 GMT
so, what you’re saying, llyan, that shooting Kort full of holes was justified because he was a “bad guy” - and he had it coming? ergo, Team Gibbs is innocent of any wrongdoing in this matter... why bother to bring him before a court of law, when it was easier just to shoot him on the spot? (eta: when Kort raised his gun, Gibbs being the expert marksman that he is, could have shot the gun out of his hand...)
but, of course, that ending would have been boring, and not the “EPIC” finale that TK got (as DDFisher described it )…
nas
That was actually a rare bit of continuity in the series. When the team very first met Kort, he attacked Tony in the elevator and instead of fighting back, Tony just nodded over to the rest of the team who had their guns trained on Kort. When Kort questioned it, Gibbs told Kort that his agents shoot to kill.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Sept 30, 2019 13:47:05 GMT
I have to admit I laughed at that scene. The way they were standing around him, in the real world he simply could have ducked and they all would have shot each other. Bullets missing their target, bullets going through him, in the real world, they would have shot each other anyway. I'm pretty sure this was done in an episode of Get Smart back in the 60's.
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Post by jessielee on Oct 8, 2019 20:57:55 GMT
Wilmer Valderrama Talks About the Women—Ziva and Bishop—in His NCIS Life and a Return to His Darker Side for TorresNow that Ziva David (Cote de Pablo) has come and gone, it’s back to business as usual on NCIS, and the team gets a case when the body of a Marine Lieutenant is found hidden under an 18-wheeler. To pinpoint the crime scene and locate a suspect, they use the truck’s GPS to track its previous locations.
Then Jack Sloane (Maria Bello) encourages the team to sit down and talk about Ziva’s recent reappearance and what it means to each of them.
“Ziva resurfacing definitely took a toll on the team,” Wilmer Valderrama, who plays Special Agent Nick Torres, tells Parade.com in this exclusive interview. “Everything has been disturbed and has been disrupted. I think you’re going to see the characters handle the new reality, the new truth. I think that for Torres, in particular, it isn’t as complicated because he’s never met her before. If anything, he just confirms a lot of different rumors.”
Valderrama says he enjoyed working with de Pablo and, not only that, but he feels as if it was good for the show because their characters have a lot in common.
“I love the dynamic between them,” the former That ‘70s Show star says. “You’ve never seen two characters that have this much alpha in them in the same NCIS screen. I think that’s what made it really exciting for the writers to put us together.”
And speaking of getting together with another female character on the series, in an earlier interview with Parade.com, executive producers Frank Cardea and Steven D. Binder teased a little something about Torres and Ellie Bishop (Emily Wickersham).
“They’re growing very fond of each other, but I think the two characters, as well as the rest of the team, has seen that they have a lot to lose come something bad happening to any of them, you know? I’m not sure where the writers want to take this yet. I know the fans are excited about the possibility there, but we all know how that turned out for Tony (Michael Weatherly) and Ziva.”
You’ve been on NCIS for several seasons now. Do you feel that the character has grown and that you are comfortable with him?
Yeah, I think so. It’s ideal building a character that can handle the elements of my strengths, such as comedy, or doing action, or handling some of the heavier moments in the show that were important to build a character that had this multi-layered history that he could draw from when it came to building anything that was presented to him as the character. I think that was important. You want to be able to have all those layers. I think that’s what makes a character relatable and makes him easy to understand and, also, you’re going to root for him.
He’s a flawed character. He’s been in a dark place from the past, so, him having the support of basically a family and a team is something he wasn’t used to until now. I think that Torres feels very comfortable now. We’ll see if that’s going to last for the duration of the season. I know for a fact that a lot of demons are going to come and haunt him, so, I think he will be slipping back into that dark, dark version of Torres.
You’ve had some great comedic moments, I guess we’re going to see less of those.
I’ll still find humor in the tough and rough moments. I think he’ll always have an interesting and funny point of view on what he’s experienced in life. I know he’ll always have some kind of opinion about it, but I think that, ultimately, we want to go back a little bit to how he was introduced in the first season, have him go back to his old ways, doing what it takes to crack a case or to get a bad guy.
To revisit the question about Torres and Bishop. Torres is someone who doesn’t want to share his feelings; Bishop’s someone who recently divorced and then her boyfriend was killed, so she’s not sure what she wants. Will we see any progress in their relationship, or is it still going to be hand’s off all season?
It really is hard to say. I feel like Torres and Bishop had an understanding on a number of levels, and they are closest in age. I think that’s what made the fans look at this as a possibility. I don’t know if Torres is still comfortable allowing himself to crossing those boundaries, specifically because one of the reasons why he worked undercover for so long was because he saw it as some type of weakness to build personal relationships with people that he works with. They may be someone who could not be relied on and be able to do what it takes. He wants to be able to put himself on the line without thinking about anyone else really but himself. So, I think that’s also going to come into play and influence whether we’re going to go there or not. I think their relationship is going to be addressed throughout the season and as they figure out if that’s a boundary that they’re willing to cross or not. Wilmer Valderrama, Emily Wickersham Photo: Monty Brinton/CBS Wilmer Valderrama, Emily Wickersham (Photo: Monty Brinton/CBS)
McGee (Sean Murray) is married and Jimmy’s (Brian Dietzen) is married now so we do have a couple of characters that do have family lives. We don’t necessarily need to have more.
If you look at Mark Harmon’s character Gibbs, I, honestly, feel it’s more interesting that he’s that lone wolf. All the different points of views make the show interesting. I don’t want it to be soapy to be honest. You want it to be still exciting and you want people to be good at what they do for a living without putting too much emphasis on the soap part of it, you know? I think that going back to maybe some inner demons and having Torres overcome self-struggle is also just as interesting as building relationships between the characters.
Ziva is gone for now, but she will be returning. What was it like having her back?
It’s been amazing. As soon as we met, we started snapping on Spanish and we’re just like, “Blah-blah-blah-blah,” we just literally got along super well. She’s a fantastic actress and it was really a gift to be able to work with her considering how dear she is to the fans. That made it really exciting for me, especially, because both of our characters are kind of cut from the same cloth. We’re both like wild animals that have been given a badge.
You also work with the USO and last holiday season you went on tour with them. What do you do when you go out?
I’m a Master of Ceremonies. I partner with the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to bring a stage show to the troops. We went to Iraq, Afghanistan, Norway, Poland, Bahrain. It was a really exciting moment for me, because I love doing that. I’ve done so many USO tours and it’s always special to be in Iraq or Afghanistan literally doing Christmas. That’s important to me and an honor for me and my family to be able to be of service in that moment where our soldiers need us to remember them the most. I’m excited. I’m taking a bigger role at the USO that will be announced a little later, but I’m very proud of the work that I’ve been able to do.
Did you start before your NCIS connection?
Yes, I started it in my early 20s. I’ve done over 60 USO tours, and I’ve travelled the world, South Korea, Greenland, Germany, Africa, you name it. I’ve been everywhere. It’s been one of my proudest moments in my career for sure.
You post a lot on Instagram, which is great for fans. How do you decide how personal to get?
I try to go as far as possible and if I get in trouble, then I’ll figure it out, but, honestly, I don’t censor myself. I think that right now the fans need to be in on the joke. I feel that they should be exposed to what we go through every day, because it’s fun. It’s a fun show and to have been a part of the show for so long, that makes it fun. It’s fun to give the fans so much insight, because the show has never really been part of social media for like 16 years, because they don’t necessarily post any teases. I feel like I have the opportunity to just do it myself. I don’t really ask CBS for permission for any of it. So, if you’re going to follow me on any of the media, you may or may not see me get in trouble.
But what about your personal life because you also post about your personal life? Do you have a filter? Are there things that you say, “No, I’m not going to do this?”
Honestly, I think that the short answer really is that there’s certain things about my life that are sacred to me and I only share highlights or moments that I feel will be fun to remember later. There are certain things that I’m very proud of that I want to show. I live a very normal life, you know, not everything is that interesting, but there’s certain things that happen in my life that I’m very proud of like buying my mom a house. That would be an exciting moment. It was one way for all of my cousins and family members in Columbia to see my mom, and it’s just a creative way to kind of stay in touch with all the other people that matter, too.
parade.com/933134/paulettecohn/wilmer-valderrama-talks-about-the-women-ziva-and-bishop-in-his-ncis-life-and-a-return-to-his-darker-side-for-torres/
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Post by usmcbrat on Oct 10, 2019 15:38:13 GMT
Thanks for posting JessieLee. This is one of the reasons why I really like Wilmer as a person. Nick, not so much, but it shows how underrated Wilmer is as an actor. I do like how he said he doesn't want the show to get "soapy".
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Post by terrij58 on Oct 10, 2019 18:57:57 GMT
You and me both. This show is a crime drama not a soap opera. Let's keep it that way.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Oct 10, 2019 20:05:57 GMT
[ quote author="terrij58" source="/post/9307/thread" timestamp="1570733877"]You and me both. This show is a crime drama not a soap opera. Let's keep it that way.[/quote] It was a soap opera from the time Ms David was introduced. Not yet 23 and she’d already: Done her 2 years military service. Graduated from college. Joined The Mossad. Been promoted to handler. Completed Kidon training. I know I’ve forgotten things but even the above put the character in extreme soap character territory. [/font][/font]
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Post by ballerina on Oct 10, 2019 21:15:01 GMT
You and me both. This show is a crime drama not a soap opera. Let's keep it that way. It was a soap opera from the time Ms David was introduced. Not yet 23 and she’d already: Done her 2 years military service. Graduated from college. Joined The Mossad. Been promoted to handler. Completed Kidon training. I know I’ve forgotten things but even the above put the character in extreme soap character territory. NewBe16: reading this, coupled with Ninja-girls return the first two episodes, the abuse she gave Tony, and her narcissistic personality, I wish the writers had the guts to turn her into a bad guy in the end. Someone whose job it was to befriend Gibbs and his NCIS team to gain advantage for Mossad. Have her the one responsible for what happened to Caitlin, and the Ari thing all part of the game to gain trust. But then use the current storyline to prove that she has been evil this whole time. However, the writers don’t have the guts to make her bad, they will continue to make her good. Nor do I think CDP would agree to something like that, unless they play her along until they reveal the truth.
But it that is all IMHO, I know others feel differently.
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