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Post by verdun on Feb 10, 2021 19:38:47 GMT
It's telling of Breena's position in the NCIS world that we've seen her father since we've seen her. As a rule the episodes that center (at least somewhat) on Jimmy are pretty good. The person who writes the episode has a good feel for the character and the actor does a good job bringing the character to life within the limits of the script. This was another of those. The case was at least interesting and Jimmy's role was fine when he was front and center.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Feb 11, 2021 0:57:19 GMT
I just regret that there is not one NCIS agent with a normal family life. My uncle and cousin served their entire careers with normal families. McGee is married with children. I think that's considered normal. NCIS has done a horrible job with marriage and family. I won't go through the inventory as to broken marriages or relationships, but it seems that TPTB aren't fans of family life. As to the death of Breena. Michelle Pierce, the actress that portrayed Breena was on the show six times, the last episode was in 2015 "We Build, We Fight." I believe that is the episode where she gave birth. (NCIS writers can't write birth shows very well. This one and the one where Delilah gave birth were both crappy shows.) Michelle has done one other job listed on IMDb also in 2015. I don't know what's she's been doing since then, can't find much on her on Google either, but it seems that she was available to make more appearances on the show. They simply chose not to use her. Giving a six year gap from the last time we saw her to their decision to kill her off left an empty feeling for us. There was truly no emotional connection for the audience with the character, so she's just gone, like she already has been for six years, as has been pointed out previously. Had they chosen to kill off Delilah, that would have left an emotional impact on us. Had they decided to kill off Sloan's daughter, that would have given us an emotional attachment as well as motivation for Sloan to leave. They could have killed off Vance's daughter, Bishops mother or one of her brothers, Nick's sister or niece, Fornel, or Emily. There were multiple choices, even Abby was a choice. Each of them were could relate to on some basis. But we simply decided to eliminate a wife in a good marriage that we haven't seen in over half a decade. I gave the episode a C, but that was because of what was mentioned above, the quality of the crime of the week. As to Palmers' reaction to his loss. Yes, Dietzen did a magnificent job, but he had terrible material to work with. It was simply poor writing for that.
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Post by luckysmom on Feb 11, 2021 2:01:29 GMT
I need to digest a bit before I say too much ....
It was strange to see NCIS finally addressing the pandemic head on.
I have mixed feelings about Breena's death - she was not really an integral part of the cast but it still came out of left field.
One of the parts of this pandemic that has haunted me is people hospitalized and dying without their families with them. It haunts me professionally and it has me terrified of my family being hospitalized and dying by themselves. Saying goodbye over facetime. I am glad that they touched on that aspect if they were going that route.
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Post by 2 NCIS in Family on Feb 11, 2021 14:30:02 GMT
Given the bombing that put Delilah in a wheel chair I don’t consider that normal either. My aunt and cousins were mainly affected by changing homes every few years. There was no danger or threat to them even though my uncle served in a few bizarre places. (Taiwan, the Aleutians, as well as Philly and DC)
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Post by llyan on Feb 11, 2021 15:52:39 GMT
Given the bombing that put Delilah in a wheel chair I don’t consider that normal either. My aunt and cousins were mainly affected by changing homes every few years. There was no danger or threat to them even though my uncle served in a few bizarre places. (Taiwan, the Aleutians, as well as Philly and DC) I like how you include Philly as one of your 'bizarre places.'
If the show was 100% realistic with the kinds of cases and danger that real agents would face, wouldn't be nearly as exciting after 18 years. Also, the state-side, active-duty homicide rate in DC is nowhere near as high as what the show portrays. Let's be totally honest, NCIS is a drama that happens to be set around NCIS agents. As with most TV shows, suspension of belief (to a point) is required.
Having said that, I really dislike that they went this route with Jimmy. If they wanted to show Covid impacting Palmer, they should have killed off Breena's father Ed. That would have provided the same impact. Actually considering that we've seen Ed more recently than Breena, it might have had more of an impact to the viewers. I really liked that he was the 'normal' one of the team (even if he is weird!)
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Post by 2 NCIS in Family on Feb 11, 2021 16:22:23 GMT
I’m from Philly, believe me it can be bizarre
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Post by llyan on Feb 11, 2021 19:57:39 GMT
I’m from Philly, believe me it can be bizarre I'm from Pittsburgh. We concur that Philly is bizarre.
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Post by nas on Feb 12, 2021 1:55:45 GMT
looks like this episode has a 2.3 GPA... not terribly impressive, eh?
only guessing here, llyan, but as I recall Palmer didn’t care much for his father-in-law, so he wouldn’t have been too terribly emotional over his demise... but killing off Breena gave BD a chance at showing off his acting chops with an emotional breakdown, right?
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 13, 2021 21:57:38 GMT
only guessing here, llyan, but as I recall Palmer didn’t care much for his father-in-law, so he wouldn’t have been too terribly emotional over his demise... but killing off Breena gave BD a chance at showing off his acting chops with an emotional breakdown, right?
nas I'm with Palmer on that one. If they killed off the father-in-law I would have been glad at the no chance of seeing him on the show again. If they wanted an impact with Breena, they should have brought her back for a couple of the episodes before killing her. The way they did it, it felt like it was thrown in as an afterthought. The only person affected by the disease is already dead and the wearing of masks will probably be the only mention of it from this point on.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Feb 14, 2021 16:22:52 GMT
Stan Burley would have been more emotional. We begged for years to see Breena and got zip. She and their daughter didn’t really exist anymore - and didn’t when I stopped watching after the resurrection.
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Post by verdun on Feb 14, 2021 18:10:32 GMT
I saw a note on the IMDB saying the woman playing Breena stopped acting in 2015, which would explain why we haven't seen her. I'll take their word for it.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Feb 15, 2021 15:03:32 GMT
I saw a note on the IMDB saying the woman playing Breena stopped acting in 2015, which would explain why we haven't seen her. I'll take their word for it. Her last film or TV job was in 2015. We don't know anything about if she is working exclusively on stage or not. Since her IMDb page is still active, and you have to pay to keep it active, I'm making the assumption that she is still actively interested in working, but simply can't find the work. And yes, I know someone will make the argument that there are a lot of pages active for dead actors. All I know is that when I had an active page, I had to pay. When I stopped paying, my page was no longer Pro, or Active. By Pro or Active I mean, I cannot post photos of myself or videos. Pages with Photos are pro pages where someone, either the actor themselves, or their management team, keep up the yearly fees, and update the pages with their activities: upcoming projects, completed projects, or projects currently in production. I haven't found anything outside of IMDb that states that Michelle Pierce has stopped pursuing her acting career.
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