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Post by llyan on Sept 28, 2017 12:51:55 GMT
- Pretty sure they tried to pull a fast one on the audience. Unless that SAT phone could read McGee's bio-metrics, there is no way they could have matched Him with anyone, let alone himself, as they apparently did.
It's a questionable use of technology but here's how I understood this went down. Bishop 'pushed' the dating app to the satellite phone. Essentially she forced the phone to act as a computer with a GPS signal even though the phone had no capability of actually running the program. (If that's even possible to do is the questionable part but cell phones are just tiny computers aren't they?) Then she set the MTAC version of the app to search for the profile she created in MTAC and looking for the program that was on their satellite phone. Basically she was playing a game of Marco Polo with the satellite phone, calling for the app and waiting for an answer to figure out how far away they were.
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Post by luckysmom on Sept 28, 2017 12:55:25 GMT
I agree!
I also thought this was the most McGee's character has grown since he went from probie to agent, and the beginning of season 7 when he went with Tony to rescue Ziva. After that he and Tony were portrayed as clowns or complainers or whiners. Glad to see the shift.
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Post by Nlproud on Sept 28, 2017 13:27:12 GMT
as for last night's episode, I thought it was pretty good...
like llyan, even tho' I knew Gibbs & McGee were going to make it out alive I realized I was holding my breath until the scene ended...
I thought the scene between Tim & Delilah was quite touching... when he walked in and put his head in her lap, and neither of them said a word - beautiful! 😌
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Who are you, and what have you done with Nas???
I agree, this was a well put together episode. My biggest nitpicks, (and I preface by saying I like the character of Bishop) - Having a second year (or is it third) agent suddenly being team lead. I would assume, in reality, a more experienced lead would be brought in temporarily until the crisis is resolved. - The sitting on the floor (camp fire homage) was well intentioned, but came off very unprofessional.
Other than that, great episode When Gibbs noted "we need a knife", I clued in when the cell fight broke out.. genieus
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Post by llyan on Sept 28, 2017 13:35:32 GMT
Who are you, and what have you done with Nas??? Other than that, great episode When Gibbs noted "we need a knife", I clued in when the cell fight broke out.. genieus I figured from the start that the fight was staged but even watching it twice, I couldn't figure out where or when Gibbs got the knife. So I watched the scene in slow motion again last night. Gibbs picks the knife from the second henchman (not the one with the glasses that helped waterboard him) after McGee had been removed from the cell. Gibbs tackled him around the waist and you can see him pull the knife from its sheath with his right hand just before the henchman pistol whipped him. The way he fell, shielded the knife from view.
But the funny thing is, the henchman put his hand to where the knife was but didn't react when it was missing. I wonder if the actor was checking to see if the scene was a success?
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Post by nas on Sept 28, 2017 18:13:51 GMT
that was the "kinder, gentler" version of nas, nlproud... 😉if I were to say one negative thing about the episode it would have been about the opening scene where Torres put a gun to the helo pilot's head and ordered him to turn around... and if he doesn't do what you say, you're gonna' do what, Torres? put a bullet in his head?
pure genius, Torres!
obviously, his leadership skills need a bit of fine tuning before he can start issuing orders...
🤔 perhaps the writers could have come up with a scene that didn't make Torres look like a complete moron...
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Post by Hari Seldon on Sept 28, 2017 18:38:53 GMT
that was the "kinder, gentler" version of nas, nlproud... 😉if I were to say one negative thing about the episode it would have been about the opening scene where Torres put a gun to the helo pilot's head and ordered him to turn around... and if he doesn't do what you say, you're gonna' do what, Torres? put a bullet in his head?
pure genius, Torres!
obviously, his leadership skills need a bit of fine tuning before he can start issuing orders...
🤔 perhaps the writers could have come up with a scene that didn't make Torres look like a complete moron...
nas And was it a mad scientist that created the "kinder, gentler" version of you?
As I stated before, I wish the pilot had said something similar to him (if I die, you die and these kids die when this bird crashes) and when the next scene had Torres giving testimony I really wanted it to involve him being on trial for doing that. However, I can buy the pilot sympathizing with his state of mind and not reporting the incident, but they should have had him saying it. No indications at this point that there will be any scenes showing Torres as competent. After the introduction last year they hopefully know he's no good at fight choreography and won't subject us to him doing any more fights.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Sept 28, 2017 23:30:28 GMT
Thoughts -
- Abby from seasons 1 & 2 made a most welcome appearance. Hope she stays.
Now that Gibbs is back I fully expect Abby to return to form and very soon do her: "Gibbs x 5" chant.
- CBS glossed over Quinn's departure just as I understand they did with "Kevin Can Wait's" death of his wife. Classless.
In this case I believe they're not done mentioning Quinn and for me there was no comparison with the abysmal Kevin Can Wait. Turning Donna's death into a joke was crass and disrespectful to Erinn Hayes and fans of Season 1. The writer may not have spent time on a character who'd been there for a season but did stick with continuity in having her take a leave of absence to care for her Alzheimer's afflicted mom. I believe Gibbs and company will make mention of her in the coming weeks.
- Missed Quinn. She could have added quite a bit to this story.
I'll just say that despite liking Jennifer, I never warmed up to Quinn so didn't miss her in the episode. Can you share what Quinn could have added?
- Three scenes, great contribution from Margo Harshman. From her time with "The Big Bang Theory" where I first saw her to now, she has matured into a wonderful actress. If they felt they needed to "add a character" then they should give her a more prominent roll. Yes, I've seen where she is now considered a part of the regular cast and no longer a "guest star", still, adding a quality, proven talent, that already meshes with the rest of the cast would add so much more than risking bringing in an unnecessary variable.
Recurring (which is how she was credited) is good for me since she, like Fornell, isn't an NCIS agent or even an NCIS employee. I like her a lot and hope to see her more than we get of Breena (and now toddler Victoria - neither of which even get mentions). Maybe Frank & George will rectify Gary's ignoring of them).
- Pretty sure they tried to pull a fast one on the audience. Unless that SAT phone could read McGee's bio-metrics, there is no way they could have matched Him with anyone, let alone himself, as they apparently did.
Having no tech knowledge that one went right over my head.
- On another thread, it was mentioned that this season premier would be better than "Truth or Consequences". It was good, but not "TOC" good.
For me they were evenly matched and it only took 8 seasons do impress me again.
- Glad to see Reeves in a more useful roll. Hope that continues.
We agree. I do too.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Sept 28, 2017 23:45:12 GMT
I agree! I also thought this was the most McGee's character has grown since he went from probie to agent, and the beginning of season 7 when he went with Tony to rescue Ziva. After that he and Tony were portrayed as clowns or complainers or whiners. Glad to see the shift.
A bit sad that Frank and George weren't there to "save" Tony too, before Michael made the decision to leave.
I am thrilled for both Sean and his alter-ego that he's been able to evolve.
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Post by luckysmom on Sept 29, 2017 1:07:24 GMT
I agree ... still a little hard to swallow what happened and how they wrote him out but I hope the other characters at least are done with the clown routine.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Sept 29, 2017 2:05:34 GMT
Thoughts -
- Abby from seasons 1 & 2 made a most welcome appearance. Hope she stays.Now that Gibbs is back I fully expect Abby to return to form and very soon do her: "Gibbs x 5" chant.We will have to wait and see about that. I'm guessing there is a change in her.- CBS glossed over Quinn's departure just as I understand they did with "Kevin Can Wait's" death of his wife. Classless.In this case I believe they're not done mentioning Quinn and for me there was no comparison with the abysmal Kevin Can Wait. Turning Donna's death into a joke was crass and disrespectful to Erinn Hayes and fans of Season 1. The writer may not have spent time on a character who'd been there for a season but did stick with continuity in having her take a leave of absence to care for her Alzheimer's afflicted mom. I believe Gibbs and company will make mention of her in the coming weeks. While I like CBS for the most part, the way they deal with actors/actresses they are parting ways with for what ever reason, Jennifer Esposito from Blue Bloods due to her illness, Erinn Hayes and Jennifer Esposito for apparent "Chemistry" reasons, I find simply inhuman. And if it's not CBS, then it's the shows producers and CBS does nothing to prevent it. This goes back to M*A*S*H and the death of Henry Blake (McLean Stevenson when he wished to leave) and Gelbart wanted to make sure he couldn't come back.- Missed Quinn. She could have added quite a bit to this story.I'll just say that despite liking Jennifer, I never warmed up to Quinn so didn't miss her in the episode. Can you share what Quinn could have added?Quinn would have become team leader, not Bishop, due to her seniority, adding, in my opinion, a more believable leadership quality and calming effect than Bishop. I know the writers wrote Bishop as a capable leader, but as someone above pointed out, I didn't buy it. We also would have avoided the "floor campfire", which, again mentioned above, not professional. Her seniority and experience would have flowed much better and more believably, with the team than what they shoehorned with Bishop.- Three scenes, great contribution from Margo Harshman. From her time with "The Big Bang Theory" where I first saw her to now, she has matured into a wonderful actress. If they felt they needed to "add a character" then they should give her a more prominent roll. Yes, I've seen where she is now considered a part of the regular cast and no longer a "guest star", still, adding a quality, proven talent, that already meshes with the rest of the cast would add so much more than risking bringing in an unnecessary variable.Recurring (which is how she was credited) is good for me since she, like Fornell, isn't an NCIS agent or even an NCIS employee. I like her a lot and hope to see her more than we get of Breena (and now toddler Victoria - neither of which even get mentions). Maybe Frank & George will rectify Gary's ignoring of them).I seriously doubt they will do that. I wish they would, and another Palmer centric episode with Breeana would be very welcome.
- Glad to see Reeves in a more useful roll. Hope that continues.We agree. I do too.
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Post by llyan on Sept 29, 2017 13:15:42 GMT
I agree! I also thought this was the most McGee's character has grown since he went from probie to agent, and the beginning of season 7 when he went with Tony to rescue Ziva. After that he and Tony were portrayed as clowns or complainers or whiners. Glad to see the shift. A bit sad that Frank and George weren't there to "save" Tony too, before Michael made the decision to leave.
I am thrilled for both Sean and his alter-ego that he's been able to evolve. I think in all fairness, McGee was practically a blank slate when he started. He was the young rookie with little to no field experience. Unless they kept him as the bumbling probie, he had nowhere but up to go. And he had to evolve because there was no believable way that Gibbs would have kept Season 1 McGee on his team for fourteen years. Tony's character started on the show with more experience and more baggage. Looking back on it, he inherently had less room to grow and wasn't helped by some of the choices they made with him over the years. But I'm not sure you can blame it solely on Gary. Shane Brennan ran the show for five years too and I think it was the cumulative choices that made it harder to grow Tony's character and who knows how much influence Michael had in how his character was portrayed. Sean has said in a few interviews that he had lobbied to grow McGee's character personally (with Delilah) and when Michael left, that forced McGee's character to grow professionally. (I can't recall Michael ever saying anything like that. Does anyone else?) Regardless, I am looking forward to Frank and George running the show. I have always enjoyed their episodes all the way back to their very first one: Sub Rosa. Which, just so happened to introduce everyone's favorite McGeek.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Sept 29, 2017 14:16:51 GMT
A bit sad that Frank and George weren't there to "save" Tony too, before Michael made the decision to leave.
I am thrilled for both Sean and his alter-ego that he's been able to evolve. I think in all fairness, McGee was practically a blank slate when he started. He was the young rookie with little to no field experience. Unless they kept him as the bumbling probie, he had nowhere but up to go. And he had to evolve because there was no believable way that Gibbs would have kept Season 1 McGee on his team for fourteen years. Tony's character started on the show with more experience and more baggage. Looking back on it, he inherently had less room to grow and wasn't helped by some of the choices they made with him over the years. But I'm not sure you can blame it solely on Gary. Shane Brennan ran the show for five years too and I think it was the cumulative choices that made it harder to grow Tony's character and who knows how much influence Michael had in how his character was portrayed. Sean has said in a few interviews that he had lobbied to grow McGee's character personally (with Delilah) and when Michael left, that forced McGee's character to grow professionally. (I can't recall Michael ever saying anything like that. Does anyone else?) Regardless, I am looking forward to Frank and George running the show. I have always enjoyed their episodes all the way back to their very first one: Sub Rosa. Which, just so happened to introduce everyone's favorite McGeek. I have argued this point before, in a thread that is now buried deeply on this forum. Even though Weatherly denies this, he is responsible for the character of DiNozzo.
In a printed interview posted online back in '03 or '04, Weatherly was talking about his first contact with Bellisario. Weatherly was in Australia for some reason, Bellisario was there with his family on vacation. They ran into each other, I don't think they knew each other at the time, but Weatherly is a huge fan of his work, and somehow managed to get himself invited to dinner with the family.
Bellisario shared with Michael his idea for the show and Michael [convinced him/impressed him, (I can't remember exactly)] to let him be a part of it.
During the early episodes, DiNozzo was the doof, but around the 5th or 6th episode, he became a sudden movie buff (Weatherly is a movie buff) jock, and phys-ed major who turned cop. When McGee came on, Weatherly ad-libed the McGee insults. (McGoofy, McNerd, etc.)
As time went on, the writers incorporated some of the ad-libs, but Weatherly continued to insert his own.
Weatherly created DiNozzo and Bellisario let him. Brennan may not have done a good job of furthering DiNozzo's development (Brennan was probably not the best choice to take Bellisario's place) but Glasberg stated, on more than one occasion, that he simply didn't know what to do with DiNozzo. (Which places the onus on Glasberg for not finding help to get the character right. And he had George and Frank still working there, and they had been with the series since the inception.)
And if you pay close attention to the mannerisms of Weatherly during interviews and public appearances, DiNozzo mirrors them exactly.
Weatherly has no one but himself to blame for the creation of the monster. (perhaps we should call DiNozzo "Weatherly's Monster") And contrary to his own protestations, he has no one to blame but himself for the monster's demise.
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Post by mchnelson on Sept 29, 2017 21:19:32 GMT
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Post by fanthom8 on Sept 29, 2017 23:02:44 GMT
OK, what did you do with the real nas? lol
holy cow, just read on, didn't realize so many asked what happen to the real nas,
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Post by nas on Sept 30, 2017 0:04:09 GMT
well, it was only 1 or 2 who mentioned the "missing" nas, fanthom, but I assure you that the "real me" is alive and well - and still a curmudgeonly old broad (most of the time)...
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