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Post by Hari Seldon on Oct 4, 2017 1:46:39 GMT
That male mummified corpse looked an awful lot like the one from Dead and Unburied. Good reason for that. I don't remember the time frame between death and disinterment back in 'Dead and Unburied', but victim is killed, buried, left for a while, then dug up.There was probably a "considering the circumstances" somewhere in there even if we didn't hear it. I also think some time may have passed - I doubt Gibbs and McGee would hug if it was just a day after last episode.nah, just a hand cramp.Nope.Definitely. Especially they way she handles Torres.I'm sure Grace is seeing what she wants to be the truth - something a shrink shouldn't be doing.I was totally expecting it to be the other way around - McGee not entering even though he knew it was unlocked.The names were familiar, but half an hour later the only ones I remember are Ibuprofin and DMSO. Ibuprofin is an OTC pain killer. DMSO is often just used to cause other things to absorb through the skin, including the poison used in 'Yankee White' so Gibbs should have recognized it.Always.
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fanthom8
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Post by fanthom8 on Oct 4, 2017 3:59:58 GMT
compared to last week, this week was like a soap opera
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Post by pdsmith777 on Oct 4, 2017 10:15:06 GMT
compared to last week, this week was like a soap opera I was actually thinking that the first episode was like a Major league baseball game, and the second episode was like a slow pitch church softball league game.
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Post by llyan on Oct 4, 2017 13:47:49 GMT
compared to last week, this week was like a soap opera I was actually thinking that the first episode was like a Major league baseball game, and the second episode was like a slow pitch church softball league game. And yet, both were entertaining! At least for me, anyway. The episode was very different from the action movie we got last week but I do enjoy a good psychological drama too.
I have to rewatch to focus on the crime. I'll admit was completely distracted by Gibbs' odd behavior and McGee's obvious distress. Both men were definitely not fine after their time in Paraguay and I liked that they both reacted differently to it. It makes sense because the two men are in different stages of their lives.
Gibbs, faced his mortality in Paraguay and is clearly grateful for another lease on life. I know people are going to say that he nearly died several times before, so why is this time different? It may be as simple as because: this time is different. Those were single incidents that he was able to recover from and then ignore. This time, he faced mortality every day for two months. Even Gibbs can't brush that aside. I loved the scene in his basement, for many reasons, one of which was Gibbs' hand shaking. He might be putting on a brave face for the world, but in his basement, he's still got demons to face. It's great to see him accept that he needs Dr. Grace's help.
Tim, on the other hand, has a different problem. Gibbs only has himself to worry about. Tim has Delilah and their baby. Tim faced his mortality and knows that his life isn't just about himself. He isn't focused on enjoying his second chance in life because he's an over-thinker and he can't stop worrying about what might happen to the two people he loves the most if something would happen to him. He also knew his problem but he had no idea how to fix it.
The basement scene was fantastic. Again, Sean and Mark knocked it out of the park. McGee was struggling to be ok like Gibbs was. But he was so wrapped up in his own issues that he didn't realize that Gibbs was only ok enough. Seeing that his mentor and friend was able to admit he was having problems made it ok for Tim to admit that he had problems too. And their conversation was like the virtual head slap that McGee needed to at least go see Dr. Grace. (On a side note, Tim reacted like this when Delilah was hurt... he avoided the problem until he was able to process, accept it and take steps to move forward.)
Tim and Dr. Grace's session was also fantastic and well played by Sean and Laura San Giacomo! Even though Gibbs' words got McGee to go, Tim still avoided his problem by talking about Delilah the whole time because he didn't want to hear how broken he was. I loved how Dr. Grace nudged him in the right direction with her questions. I got a chuckle out of her questioning whether there was a scoreboard out there that tallied up whether a person had suffered enough. And it was great that she pointing out that if he can survive Paraguay, he can handle anything that life throws at him. He wasn't fixed, but at least he could relax enough to get a good night's sleep. And Gibbs showing up for his session right after McGee's was also a twofer: he gets the help he needs and Tim gets the support he needs.
Overall, very lovely episode and its great to see the necessary steps to maintain mental health and therapy portrayed so well.
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Post by nas on Oct 4, 2017 22:25:11 GMT
totally agree with everything you wrote, llyan!
I can only add that, hopefully, by talking to "Dr. Grace" that he can avoid a PTSD meltdown down the road...
I don't think he's "faking it", as Tim put it; I think he's doing his best to "cope" with it, and he really does have a different outlook on life this time... at least, that's what I want to believe...
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Post by tuna1 on Oct 4, 2017 23:44:27 GMT
Can't argue with anything llyan said. I think we're seeing the beginning of PTSD for both McGee and Gibbs. And that would only be natural. A very well done episode IMO.
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Post by luckysmom on Oct 5, 2017 0:18:01 GMT
I just watched this afternoon due to post season baseball... @newbe thanks for the write up. I was missing the message boards today! @ llyan , agree with everything you said. You recapped it well! I thought Mark and Sean were great. Both episodes had a different flavor but enjoyed both. It will be interesting to see how the time in Paraguay plays out for Gibbs and McGee.
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Post by luckysmom on Oct 5, 2017 0:55:17 GMT
And a few additional notes - I love that Tim and Delilah don't want to know what they are having. Being old school one of the biggest thrills after a healthy baby is finding out if its a boy or a girl!
I liked the advice Grace gave Tim - you passed the test with flying colors. He was always portrayed as less "tough" for lack of a better term than Gibbs, Tony or now Torres. But in reality he is not.
Only gripe - Palmer and Abby opening Ducky's mail. All good in the end but I would not be happy...
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Oct 5, 2017 1:27:00 GMT
And a few additional notes - I love that Tim and Delilah don't want to know what they are having. Being old school one of the biggest thrills after a healthy baby is finding out if its a boy or a girl! I liked the advice Grace gave Tim - you passed the test with flying colors. He was always portrayed as less "tough" for lack of a better term than Gibbs, Tony or now Torres. But in reality he is not. Only gripe - Palmer and Abby opening Ducky's mail. All good in the end but I would not be happy... I didn't like it much either but once it goes in the trash it's not Ducky's anymore. Both Abby & Jimmy behaved in long established character so if they hadn't opened it I'd have been surprised. I think if it had been a plea for upping his donation amount they'd have thrown it back in the trash and that would have been the end of it.
FYI: My alma mater has never called me up, all requests for money (I don't have any to spare) come via snail mail.
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Post by luckysmom on Oct 5, 2017 1:47:20 GMT
My husband and I went to the same college. He was full academic scholarship so we always donate (in the pay it forward mode). We up it when we have a good year, since we attribute success to his scholarship and our educations and want to see others have the opportunity. And they call us. Every year.
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Post by usmcbrat on Oct 5, 2017 19:39:37 GMT
I was a scholarship kid to a very spendy private school, so I also pay it forward as much as I can. My alma mater has a very active alumni network and a very large endowment (close to Harvard's, the largest), so I get phone calls at least 4 times a year, emails and snail mails monthly, etc. This year, they are boasting the largest class made up of students who were first in their family to attend college (as I was). I am happy to give what and when I can, but I just tune out the constant appeals. But, I could totally get where Ducky was coming from. I was literally on the table giving blood this morning when I got an email from the Red Cross saying that there were still appointments available at the blood drive I was attending and to please sign up!
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Post by kate06460 on Oct 5, 2017 22:47:56 GMT
I also have an alma mater (or 2) that call a few times a year and send mailings. Quarterly...or every chance they get.
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Post by sukismom on Oct 6, 2017 17:49:18 GMT
When my Alma mater used to contact me, that contact came from 5 different units within the university, all seeking donations. Yikes!!! I totally understand Ducky's reaction.
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Post by terrij58 on Oct 6, 2017 18:56:33 GMT
While neither one of us went to the University of Arkansas, my late husband was a Razorback fan. Because of that we were contacted constantly for donations. I, too, totally understand Ducky's reaction.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Oct 6, 2017 20:02:57 GMT
I've managed to avoid it with my Alma mater, but the university of the previous owner of my house went and did a reverse lookup on the address and got my (now former) landline number. I gave the person who called an earful about how someone working for the university ought to be smart enough to look and see that the name is different. They must have marked the number as invalid since I didn't get another call from them.
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