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Post by pdsmith777 on Oct 25, 2017 23:27:10 GMT
Some thoughts on the episode.
Sometimes a 1 - 5 scale doesn't do. This isn't a 5, but it's not an 8 either. Somewhere around a 6.5.
Love that Reeves got the spotlight. Duane did an excellent job. No Ducky, less Gibbs than previous, younger agents playing larger roll, some interesting question concerning this turn but that can be talked about later.
I agree that the AA was respectfully handled, just as I believe it is with Elementary. Also Gibbs with a friend in the program, my best guess would be Fornel, and it was his last wife, Stephanie, who would always get drunk on their anniversary and continuously call him (first season).
Watched "Dead Letter" again (season 13, episode 23) for the reference to the bar tab. It was just a passing mention, but my money is on the writers/producers forgetting about the episode mention rather than Reeves sitting there drinking Club Soda. Not saying that isn't/wasn't possible, but the history of the production messing up cannon supports my original thought.
Bad girl was quite convincing she was a victim, and her turn was nicely done, her sponsor hitting on Gibbs while she had a boy friend seemed a bit like a guy thing, but maybe it's more prevalent than I realize.
Palmer's scenes were great. Love the fact that Dietzen is getting a chance to show his acting chops, and the fact that they are letting Palmer mature gradually into the ME role. The line "Do we mind, Agent Gibbs?" was classic Palmer, but with a much more mature delivery. And no verbal gaffs or bad jokes.
New girls role was a bit muted this week. Made significant contributions, but never seen outside of the office. No punching bags this week.
The ending was one of the best this show has ever produced. Duane staring into the camera with his last line "and I have a story to tell" was incredibly powerful. I rank it up there with the ending of "The Tie that Binds", and "Keep Going".
Again, Duane Henry gave an incredible performance, which is why I'm having a hard time rating this one. Over all it was a good show, but not outstanding, but Henry's performance was outstanding. Worth watching again.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Oct 26, 2017 0:23:06 GMT
I had something similar when my now [nearly] 32 year old niece was still a little girl. We were watching 3 Men and a Little Lady on TV when Mary, (the baby from the 1st movie), sitting at an outdoor cafe with Michael, Peter and her mom, blurts out "what's a penis".
I told myself the question was coming and went (in my head) 3, 2, 1 - and sure enough Cassady asked.
In those few seconds I came up with an answer.
I said": You know what your daddy goes potty with (she'd walked in on him - no lock on bathroom door)?" She said "yes". Me: That's a penis. Her: OK.
When productions use images of people they not only have to get permission they also have to pay for it. The better option would have been to get a personal teenage/very early 20s since he was in college before the normal age - photo from Sean.
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Post by llyan on Oct 26, 2017 0:34:23 GMT
When productions use images of people they not only have to get permission they also have to pay for it. The better option would have been to get a personal teenage/very early 20s since he was in college before the normal age - photo from Sean.
Sean was an actor from a young age, so he should have had head shots from back then. Maybe he wasn't dorky enough for the production's tastes, which is why they photoshopped a picture? After all, Sean was 16 in the photo that Hari Seldon posted. Here's another picture of teenage Sean from his time in Harts of the West. Aside from some obvious 90's hair, it's hardly embarrassing.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Oct 26, 2017 1:02:26 GMT
When productions use images of people they not only have to get permission they also have to pay for it. The better option would have been to get a personal teenage/very early 20s since he was in college before the normal age - photo from Sean.
Sean was an actor from a young age, so he should have had head shots from back then. Maybe he wasn't dorky enough for the production's tastes, which is why they photoshopped a picture? After all, Sean was 16 in the photo that Hari Seldon posted. Here's another picture of teenage Sean from his time in Harts of the West. Aside from some obvious 90's hair, it's hardly embarrassing. Well he does resemble Haley Joel Osment a little - especially the hair and around the eyes.
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Post by luckysmom on Oct 26, 2017 2:26:13 GMT
Just watched the episode and I agree with your comments.
Episode #2 with no Ducky but I do love that Jimmy has stopped being played as a fool and is doing well in the role.
Loved the entire reference to Tony. Long overdue. I wish somehow he had been mentioned with McGee's wedding...
Interesting the entire Abby thoughts - she has not been really involved with Gibbs and I think has less screen time.
I like Reeves and am enjoying the reveal of his character.
I wonder with PP departing if they are going to pay less attention to the forensics and more attention to psych profiles ....
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Post by Hari Seldon on Oct 26, 2017 2:30:54 GMT
Sean was an actor from a young age, so he should have had head shots from back then. Maybe he wasn't dorky enough for the production's tastes, which is why they photoshopped a picture? After all, Sean was 16 in the photo that Hari Seldon posted. Here's another picture of teenage Sean from his time in Harts of the West. Aside from some obvious 90's hair, it's hardly embarrassing. Well he does resemble Haley Joel Osment a little - especially the hair and around the eyes. If only they could get one from Harts of the West where SM is with MH (especially in the rodeo clown outfit). I found a scene that had both of them in it, but never in the same shot.
And the sponsor in the episode was nothing compared to the wife in the clip. Imagine if her husband wasn't standing right there (actually, she probably was imagining that).
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Post by nas on Oct 26, 2017 2:44:09 GMT
I got a bad vibe from Melissa the minute she opened her mouth... maybe it was her overplaying the "victim" thing, e.g., so easily showing Reeves her bruises and her hysteria over shooting her boyfriend (what's his name?)...over the top much, lady?
oh, pretty please, Clayton darling, tell me your story! I will be a captive audience! (don't tell DDF/Trent Kort, but he has been replaced by Duane Henry; you know I'm a sucker for a gorgeous man with a British accent! 😋)
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Post by kate06460 on Oct 26, 2017 11:18:48 GMT
I had forgotten Stephanie was in the program but I was thinking of Jeri Ryan's character.
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Post by fanthom8 on Oct 26, 2017 13:40:49 GMT
They made MI6 an alcoholic, lol, now that's funny.
actually, I go to AA, oh, it's not what you think, it's a liquor store that doesn't put labels on their bottles.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Oct 26, 2017 14:24:43 GMT
I got a bad vibe from Melissa the minute she opened her mouth... maybe it was her overplaying the "victim" thing, e.g., so easily showing Reeves her bruises and her hysteria over shooting her boyfriend (what's his name?)...over the top much, lady?
And yet the new superstar shrink didn't pick up on it. They really need to recruit Jerry Neisler.
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Post by sukismom on Oct 26, 2017 17:55:55 GMT
Finally able to watch the entire episode! The case wasn't exactly spectacular, but there were certain elements worth noting. I'm so happy with Abby acting like a professional instead of the Gibbs X 5 garbage. I'm enjoying seeing more of a Palmer who is growing into a professional instead of the usual dufus. That got old years ago. Kudos also for the growth of Bishop into a responsible agent.
Duane Henry was terrific! As someone who grew up in an alcoholic environment, I can appreciate how difficult it is to get control of your life and your self-respect. The gradual reveal of his specific issues was beautifully done. I sense there should be more coming in the future.
The McMeme was a hoot, pure Tony. He wasn't my favorite character by a wide margin, but I'm glad they are acknowledging him and his antics. Turnabout is fair play and it's long past time McGee got his innings at that game.
Overall I give this episode a 6.5.
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Post by terrij58 on Oct 26, 2017 19:18:49 GMT
I got a bad vibe from Melissa the minute she opened her mouth... maybe it was her overplaying the "victim" thing, e.g., so easily showing Reeves her bruises and her hysteria over shooting her boyfriend (what's his name?)...over the top much, lady?
And yet the new superstar shrink didn't pick up on it. They really need to recruit Jerry Neisler.I would have enjoyed seeing "Dr. Kate's sister, Rachel" come back. But the actress is probably busy and is unable to come back. Sigh.
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Post by BobNOTinValencia on Oct 26, 2017 19:29:39 GMT
I got a bad vibe from Melissa the minute she opened her mouth... maybe it was her overplaying the "victim" thing, e.g., so easily showing Reeves her bruises and her hysteria over shooting her boyfriend (what's his name?)...over the top much, lady?
And yet the new superstar shrink didn't pick up on it. They really need to recruit Jerry Neisler.Yeah, when Jack brought Melissa down to autopsy, I thought that maybe it was to trip her up, but it seemed that Jack felt that Mel was just distraught and in need of closure... At least they got the storage info, which set a bunch of stuff in motion
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Post by Hari Seldon on Oct 26, 2017 20:16:20 GMT
And yet the new superstar shrink didn't pick up on it. They really need to recruit Jerry Neisler. Yeah, when Jack brought Melissa down to autopsy, I thought that maybe it was to trip her up, but it seemed that Jack felt that Mel was just distraught and in need of closure... At least they got the storage info, which set a bunch of stuff in motion Except that it seemed to me she wanted them to find the laptop. She made sure to mention the lock had been changed so she couldn't get into it, and the laptop probably hindered the investigation more than it helped it because they wasted time trying to hunt down the files on it. I'm not sure whether she was foolish to delete the files or if the writer was so computer illiterate that he didn't know a file could be copied without deleting, because if the files had been in tact they might have relaxed a bit, thinking the data was safe. The files being deleted meant the team had to keep looking for them and that lead to Melissa being caught.
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Post by mchnelson on Oct 27, 2017 20:40:32 GMT
Re Reeves drinking with Tony, Fox in the UK tonight are airing “The Wall” ep 19 season 14 and Reeves is on chaperone duty, laying in bed, in front of the door, Henry offers him a drink and he refuses, saying he doesn’t drink. Henry makes a remark, “got that bad did it”, about the reason he is not drinking. So the writers did set it up for the AA. Funny how it came up this week.
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