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Post by llyan on May 18, 2018 12:19:48 GMT
Okay, thanks, that was what I was thinking. I find it interesting that PP who claims to be an animal lover, (particularly dogs) would react like this. Especially if it was as a result of someone roughhousing with the dog. This incident completely destroyed their relationship? It does make her look petty, doesn't it? I think this is the important part of the above interview:Several people were uncomfortable with the dog's presence around the production after the bite, but were afraid to confront Harmon, their boss.
But Perrette had plenty of clout and spoke up for the others who felt that they could not, people familiar with the situation said. Then things escalated.
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Though Axelrod said his client's dog "did not come back to the set" after the bite, others who spoke to TheWrap on condition of anonymity said the dog did return.
As others have said, there are lots of people that are alright with little dogs but terrified of big dogs. I can totally understand Pauley standing up on behalf of the crew to Mark. She had already decided to leave, she was well-loved and in the light of #metoo, CBS wouldn't want to fire her because the first thing she would do would be to say why and then CBS would look bad. Not only is Mark the star of the show but as an executive producer, he wields a lot of clout on set. It is reasonable that the crew wouldn't want to speak up to 'the boss' about the dog.
Having said that, it does seem like Mark took reasonable precautions with the dog (keeping it either in his trailer or on a leash) when he brought it back to set and eventually stopped bringing it all together. (I've even read elsewhere that he took the dog to be re-trained.) In this case, it sounds like both were being a little stubborn and refused to back down. People do that when those they care for (in Pauley's case, the crew and in Mark's case, the dog) are involved. Even if they know they're going overboard, people can be remarkably stubborn and refuse to back down on 'principal.'
I also don't believe for a minute that Mark is selfish enough that he'd put people at risk if he believed the dog was dangerous. Every interview ever given about him and by him has shown that he's a "team player."
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Post by pdsmith777 on May 18, 2018 13:01:03 GMT
Okay, thanks, that was what I was thinking. I find it interesting that PP who claims to be an animal lover, (particularly dogs) would react like this. Especially if it was as a result of someone roughhousing with the dog. This incident completely destroyed their relationship? It does make her look petty, doesn't it? We could go round and round for the next two months about dogs, sizes, breads, training, behavior. The point is, they are animals and animals exhibit certain behaviors under certain conditions. They will protect themselves, family, or pack, if they feel threatened. If the crew member was roughhousing with the dog, then it is reasonable to accept the dog at some point might have felt threatened. If the crew member returned and there were no further incidents, then the matter should be over.
If others felt uncomfortable around the dog, and the set had a reputation for being a dog friendly set, then they should have educated themselves about behavior around dogs, or, if possible, look for work on another set.
In our society, we seem to believe that if things aren't going our way, then things should change and we bare no responsibility in making the change within ourselves to correct the matter. Easier to ask (or force) someone to separate themselves from something they love and care about, than to take the time to learn how to adjust our own personal behavior and beliefs to better deal with the situation.
As stated above, and in the article, Mark eventually left the dog at home, therefore accommodating the fears of the uneducated masses in order to keep peace.
As has also been stated on this board in several threads, Pauley can be a drama queen at times. For an incident that occurred now over a year and a half ago, and for a person who wants to be out of the spotlight, she's ranting on Twitter.
I'm sorry if you don't like this, but she's the one trying to look like the hero here. In my opinion, she's being childish and petty.
(And yes, I quoted myself.)
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Post by terrij58 on May 18, 2018 14:11:02 GMT
I live in a small community outside city limits. No lease law, so dogs can run loose. The terror of my neighborhood is a Dachshund. I read on PetMD that ER's treat more bits from Dachshund than any other breed and the #2 spot is Chihuahuas. They probably can't do as much damage as a large dog can do but they still can do plenty. Another neighbor has a pit bull and he has become my buddy, so to speak. He has rescued me from the little dogs many a time.
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Post by luckysmom on May 18, 2018 14:11:03 GMT
Sounds like things just really got out of hand, maybe emotions and egos involved and it went downhill. And who knows what other issues could have been brewing. It is really too bad that it got to this level, and too bad that Pauley chose to "let it all out" on Twitter. And the tweets were confusing and alluded to other issues (as I interpret them).
Life and NCIS goes on.
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Post by ballerina on May 18, 2018 15:14:36 GMT
It does make her look petty, doesn't it? We could go round and round for the next two months about dogs, sizes, breads, training, behavior. The point is, they are animals and animals exhibit certain behaviors under certain conditions. They will protect themselves, family, or pack, if they feel threatened. If the crew member was roughhousing with the dog, then it is reasonable to accept the dog at some point might have felt threatened. If the crew member returned and there were no further incidents, then the matter should be over.
If others felt uncomfortable around the dog, and the set had a reputation for being a dog friendly set, then they should have educated themselves about behavior around dogs, or, if possible, look for work on another set.
In our society, we seem to believe that if things aren't going our way, then things should change and we bare no responsibility in making the change within ourselves to correct the matter. Easier to ask (or force) someone to separate themselves from something they love and care about, than to take the time to learn how to adjust our own personal behavior and beliefs to better deal with the situation.
As stated above, and in the article, Mark eventually left the dog at home, therefore accommodating the fears of the uneducated masses in order to keep peace.
As has also been stated on this board in several threads, Pauley can be a drama queen at times. For an incident that occurred now over a year and a half ago, and for a person who wants to be out of the spotlight, she's ranting on Twitter.
I'm sorry if you don't like this, but she's the one trying to look like the hero here. In my opinion, she's being childish and petty.
(And yes, I quoted myself.)Well stated!
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Post by kate06460 on May 18, 2018 17:16:09 GMT
It does make her look petty, doesn't it? We could go round and round for the next two months about dogs, sizes, breads, training, behavior. The point is, they are animals and animals exhibit certain behaviors under certain conditions. They will protect themselves, family, or pack, if they feel threatened. If the crew member was roughhousing with the dog, then it is reasonable to accept the dog at some point might have felt threatened. If the crew member returned and there were no further incidents, then the matter should be over.
If others felt uncomfortable around the dog, and the set had a reputation for being a dog friendly set, then they should have educated themselves about behavior around dogs, or, if possible, look for work on another set.
In our society, we seem to believe that if things aren't going our way, then things should change and we bare no responsibility in making the change within ourselves to correct the matter. Easier to ask (or force) someone to separate themselves from something they love and care about, than to take the time to learn how to adjust our own personal behavior and beliefs to better deal with the situation.
As stated above, and in the article, Mark eventually left the dog at home, therefore accommodating the fears of the uneducated masses in order to keep peace.
As has also been stated on this board in several threads, Pauley can be a drama queen at times. For an incident that occurred now over a year and a half ago, and for a person who wants to be out of the spotlight, she's ranting on Twitter.
I'm sorry if you don't like this, but she's the one trying to look like the hero here. In my opinion, she's being childish and petty.
(And yes, I quoted myself.) I totally get what you are saying and you make a lot of sense and quite frankly I totally agree with you on PP
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Post by sukismom on May 18, 2018 17:25:06 GMT
Pdsmith you nailed it far more eloquently than I could. I agree completely.
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Post by pdsmith777 on May 18, 2018 17:37:26 GMT
Here's one other thing that bother's me. In her Twitter rant, she referenced multiple attacks, however, the article and CBS have stated it was the one attack on the crew member when the crew member was roughhousing with the dog. By my count, that's not multiple. Is she counting each stitch the crewman received as an attack on his body? Wouldn't that be multiple stitches, not attacks?
Thank you, to all who have shown support on my position. It is greatly appreciated.
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Post by llyan on May 18, 2018 19:39:26 GMT
Here's one other thing that bother's me. In her Twitter rant, she referenced multiple attacks, however, the article and CBS have stated it was the one attack on the crew member when the crew member was roughhousing with the dog. By my count, that's not multiple. Is she counting each stitch the crewman received as an attack on his body? Wouldn't that be multiple stitches, not attacks?
Thank you, to all who have shown support on my position. It is greatly appreciated. pdsmith777, I don't think the tweets about multiple attacks were related to the dog attacks or anything on set. I think the article even clarified that per the anonymous insider that Pauley didn't mean to imply that she or anyone else had been attacked on the set. As usmcbrat mentioned, her relationship to ex-husband Coyote Shivers was very tumultuous and resulted in a permanent restraining order against him. (In fact he was just in the news yesterday claiming that she sent him hand written death threats.) It's quite possible that she was talking about two different things in her tweet storm but didn't provide enough information to make that abundantly clear.
I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you regarding your assessment of Pauley's behavior. To me, based off the limited information at hand, it does seem like she's over-reacting. But this new information does provide more context and does kinda justify her behavior a little. If she was standing up for the crew, then her argument with Mark is justified. But if the problem was corrected and she still refused to set aside her feud? That's when she starts to be petty.
I guess what I'm saying is that she can be both justified in her actions AND a drama queen.
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Post by nas on May 18, 2018 19:49:36 GMT
I wrote about this dog biting incident months ago (when it first hit the media), but my OP is buried somewhere among my 400+ posts, and I can’t find it now...
anyhoo, the whole “why did PP really leave NCIS?” is becoming the “mystery of the century”, and she probably wants to milk the media attention she’s getting out of it for all it’s worth... it may just come back to kick her in the butt, and she will find herself going the way of Diane Neal...
at this point who knows what the hell she was referring to - or who she’s talking about and what she’s accusing “he” of doing!?
a few days ago I wrote I just don’t give a sh- - (I still don’t); I can’t help but reply to some of the comments...
nas
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Post by luckysmom on May 18, 2018 20:36:50 GMT
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Post by nas on May 18, 2018 22:02:25 GMT
oh great!
another nut-job (from New York) running for political office!
nas
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Post by terrij58 on May 18, 2018 22:38:27 GMT
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Post by pdsmith777 on May 18, 2018 22:40:21 GMT
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Post by sukismom on May 19, 2018 0:44:56 GMT
Empathy and compassion from the queen of drunken Twitter rants? OMG, that is too funny.😂😂😂
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