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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 16, 2017 15:23:01 GMT
My first thought during the opening scene was to look for Patricia Arquette standing in the back ground somewhere. Or Jennifer Love Hewitt.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 16, 2017 15:40:07 GMT
the Gibbs & Franks thing isn't even close to what happened with Laura in M.I.A., pd....
Laura's was a one time occurrence, whereas Mike "bang, bang shoot 'em up" Franks just kept coming back again and again to have those little "chats" with LJG! he was dead for pete sake, and for those of us who disliked him we just wish he would have stayed that way... given his absence this past season, it does seem that Mr. Franks has seen the light and passed on over to the other side - thank goodness!
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I for one LOVED Mike Franks and his bang, bang, shoot'em up method of operation. Would love to see him back one more time.
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Post by SevernSarge on Mar 16, 2017 15:52:48 GMT
My first thought during the opening scene was to look for Patricia Arquette standing in the back ground somewhere. Or Jennifer Love Hewitt. The episode did not end up the way I thought it would. Just from the opening, I immediately thought that it would end up with the LT passing away, being welcomed into the next world (ala "Titanic") by her guardian NCO. Glad that the LT and Torres had helped each other by the closing scenes.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 16, 2017 16:05:37 GMT
The episode did not end up the way I thought it would. Just from the opening, I immediately thought that it would end up with the LT passing away, being welcomed into the next world (ala "Titanic") by her guardian NCO. Glad that the LT and Torres had helped each other by the closing scenes. For a while I thought they'd find the bad guy had somehow caused the cancer (ala 'Dead Man Walking'), but am glad they didn't.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 16, 2017 16:09:25 GMT
The episode did not end up the way I thought it would. Just from the opening, I immediately thought that it would end up with the LT passing away, being welcomed into the next world (ala "Titanic") by her guardian NCO. Glad that the LT and Torres had helped each other by the closing scenes. For a while I thought they'd find the bad guy had somehow caused the cancer (ala 'Dead Man Walking'), but am glad they didn't.
"Dead Man Walking" wasn't cancer, it was poison (radiation). The "travel agent" for the unit poisoned the Lt. cigars.
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Post by Hari Seldon on Mar 16, 2017 17:38:53 GMT
"Dead Man Walking" wasn't cancer, it was poison (radiation). The "travel agent" for the unit poisoned the Lt. cigars. Radiation poisoning. They could have thrown in something radioactive that was responsible for the cancer. Not really feasible in real life, but that's true of a lot of things on the show.
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Post by sukismom on Mar 16, 2017 20:44:08 GMT
When the ptb decided that letting families in the room to watch us resusitate their family members was a good idea, there were a lot of surprised families diving out the door rapidly. It's not anything like as shown on TV. Few things are. The one thing that strikes me as a bit odd is the 'letting families in'. I would think time would be too crucial for that, unless you really meant 'letting families remain in the room'.
Ah, inviting me to ride my soap box? LOL. In the late 90s the "book smart; street stupid brigade" (aka too many grad degrees without actual experience) started producing research that "showed that we needed to get rid of visitation restrictions". Consequently there were certainly family members who camped out. There were also times when families were in the ICU waiting room because things weren't going well. They would come running when they heard "Code blue" overhead. You're right, time is an issue in those situations and it was easier to let them stand back and watch. If they could handle it, at best only half could.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Mar 16, 2017 21:04:19 GMT
If ghost Franks shows up again I can guarantee one and all that I'll be skipping that episode. I've had more than enough of him screwing with Gibbs head. Franks is why Gibbs really isn't fit to be a federal agent and the more they have him around the more I'm reminded of Franks turning Gibbs into a murderer. And remember, Franks is the only one who told Gibbs that he'd have been a miserable man (Life Before His Eyes). OK, so now he's a figment of Gibbs imagination but Jethro knew Franks the best so knows what he would have said to justify his actions in letting Gibbs see that file.
With him at long last gone (last season in Stop The Bleeding when Gibbs FINALLY told him to "Get lost, Mike") Gibbs began taking baby steps to change.
Muse Watson is a fine actor (Something To Talk About) but I can't stand Mike Franks.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 16, 2017 23:07:43 GMT
If ghost Franks shows up again I can guarantee one and all that I'll be skipping that episode. I've had more than enough of him screwing with Gibbs head. Then there will probably be at least one episode you will miss when Harmon finally decides to wrap it up. They will probably bring him back one last time as Gibbs winds his career down, with an episode that is swimming in melodrama and morose. They will certainly have Franks around talking Gibbs through whatever he's dealing with. I'm looking forward to that.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Mar 16, 2017 23:11:53 GMT
I can probably deal with flashbacks in the series finale BUT I'll watching it On-Demand rather than live so I can fast forward through his scenes if they're newly filmed ones.
The guy was the worst possible influence on Gibbs there could have been. Franks was a closed off SOB and turned Gibbs into one too. I'd have preferred to know what Gibbs would have been like with a better mentor.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 16, 2017 23:28:33 GMT
I'd have preferred to know what Gibbs would have been like with a better mentor.
Then it probably wouldn't be the show that we have enjoyed all these years, and then, probably not worth watching. Don't forget, Belisario made Gibbs the way he is before they introduced Franks, who was created after Belisario left, which mean it was Brennan who created Franks.
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Post by Llyan (Admin) on Mar 17, 2017 4:20:20 GMT
Not accurate. Franks introduced after Gibbs got "blowed up" as Season 3 ended. Me Bellisario wasn't ousted until the end of season 4.
Brennan killed him offf.
Glasberg decided to bring him back as a ghost/figment of Gibbs imagination. It was Glasberg who had Ghosts Franks tell Gibbs he'd have been a total wreck had he not murdered Hernandez. Franks who made sure the grieving widow and father where across the boarder he could find the man who'd killed the NIS Agent causing the wreck that killed Shannon & Kelly. He was an unreliable narrator justifying his own actions.
He also said he'd sleep like a baby the night he shot Arkadi Kobach after he'd dropped his weapon. Gibbs covered up that Franks shot an unarmed man.
I'll never not think of him as a horrible influence on Gibbs.
My distaste for Franks will not prevent me from watching the actor in other projects.
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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 17, 2017 14:12:03 GMT
Not accurate. Franks introduced after Gibbs got "blowed up" as Season 3 ended. Correct.Me Bellisario wasn't ousted until the end of season 4. Wrong. Belisario was ousted after season 3. Season 4 was Co-EPed by Chas Floyd Johnson, Mark Horowitz, and John C. Kelly. Brennan was a consulting producer for the first 16 episodes. He was brought on as Co-EP for episode 17Brennan killed him offf. Wrong. Brennan had developed NCIS:lalaland at the end of season 7, and was EP for that show starting from it's beginning, which was season 8 for NCIS. Glasberg was brought in as EP at the beginning of season 8. Franks was killed at the end of the P2P story arch end of season 8. Glasberg killed off Franks. Classic Glasberg.Glasberg decided to bring him back as a ghost/figment of Gibbs imagination. Correct.It was Glasberg who had Ghosts Franks tell Gibbs he'd have been a total wreck had he not murdered Hernandez. Franks who made sure the grieving widow and father where across the boarder he could find the man who'd killed the NIS Agent causing the wreck that killed Shannon & Kelly. That's classic Glasberg.He was an unreliable narrator justifying his own actions. Opinion.He also said he'd sleep like a baby the night he shot Arkadi Kobach after he'd dropped his weapon. Gibbs covered up that Franks shot an unarmed man. Okay. Not good, but, that was Franks style.I'll never not think of him as a horrible influence on Gibbs. He taught him how to be an Agent. Not so bad an influence.My distaste for Franks will not prevent me from watching the actor in other projects. I will contend that the personality traits you don't like in Gibbs were developed long before Franks came on the scene. He started with those traits when Ari infiltrated NCIS and shot Gibbs in the shoulder. That's when Gibbs started going off the rails.
I spent way too much time this morning looking all of this information up.
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Post by llyan on Mar 17, 2017 14:40:33 GMT
Me Bellisario wasn't ousted until the end of season 4. Wrong. Belisario was ousted after season 3. Season 4 was Co-EPed by Chas Floyd Johnson, Mark Horowitz, and John C. Kelly. Brennan was a consulting producer for the first 16 episodes. He was brought on as Co-EP for episode 17
Bellisario wasn't ousted until the end of season 4. He's in all of the season 4 DVD extras and he wrote the season finale, Angel of Death. He even did a commentary for the the episode. The 'season of secrets' was his brainchild. TvGuide: Exclusive - NCIS Boss Exits (5/7/2007)
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Post by pdsmith777 on Mar 17, 2017 15:45:33 GMT
I sit corrected on that point. (been mowing grass, still have more to mow, I'm not standing anytime soon)
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