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Post by jessielee on Feb 20, 2024 21:44:55 GMT
Anyway, isn't MH still listed in the credits as Exec Prod? And he couldn't even make a quick cameo? You all assume it was MH decision to not show up. Maybe he wasn't asked in the first place?
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Post by gibbsgirl8 on Feb 20, 2024 21:48:48 GMT
I never thought that the NCIS theme song could be sad. But it was. The piano version was beautiful and somber at the same time. During the opening credits, with the somber theme song, I turned to my wife and said - they should have changed the credits and, for each actor, had a clip of them interacting with Ducky in some touching way. I think that would have made a HUGE impact on the kleenex use. For the rest of the episode, I thought it was okay. Nice cameo by MW/Tony, and a shout-out to PP/Abby with the black roses, but... just an envelope with an Alaska return address? Considering we saw in an earlier episode how Ducky was basically the "driving" force that propelled Gibbs into NCIS in the first place, and was stated many times to be his oldest friend, and they were the longest running of the original cast (from the pilot)... Anyway, isn't MH still listed in the credits as Exec Prod? And he couldn't even make a quick cameo? Agree about MH/Gibbs. I understand why they had MW/Tony show up because of his relationship with Palmer but why not both showing up at the end. Gibbs did have some touching scenes with Jimmy & he was did have a special relationship with Ducky.
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Post by luckysmom on Feb 20, 2024 22:40:55 GMT
Since he is listed as an Exec Producer it is hard to imagine he was not asked, or if he wanted to be there it would not have been accommodated. My personal thought is it seems like MH made a clean break from the show. But I don't know, maybe it was the choice of the show runners. I would love to have been a fly on the wall in there when some of this was going down
Not knowing I am not wasting a lot of energy on it. I am glad that they did make a nod to both Gibbs and Abby, and that there was also a photo of Ziva and Bishop (I thought I saw her but would have to go back and look). Personal feelings towards the characters and how they were written aside, they both were part of the show for years.
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Post by llyan on Feb 20, 2024 23:45:08 GMT
I forgot that Knight's father was in the Far East office, but caught that cherry blossoms were sent when I thought that was the flower DC was known for. The cherry trees that DC is so well known for were actually a gift of friendship from Japan in 1912. Their procurement was spurred by Eliza Scidmore and championed by First Lady Helen Taft.
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Post by llyan on Feb 20, 2024 23:45:31 GMT
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Post by jennifer6973 on Feb 20, 2024 23:51:53 GMT
Hubs and I needed lots of tissues during this episode. I thought it was very well done, and it incorporated a case instead of being a "clip show". The clips they showed advanced the story, and were really poignant as well. I also loved the Easter eggs of the "Great Escape" moving company and the corgi's name being (Napoleon) Solo. I am going to have to re-watch as I am sure there are lots of things that I missed. Although I would have loved to see Gibbs, there was a nod to him at the beginning, as well as the nod to Abby, and I thought the cameo at the end was a nice touch. I am also pleased that IMDB did not spoil it until after the ep aired in the Eastern/Central time zone. Also, noting where all the flowers came from as a nod to all of the franchises, as well as the Far East office, where Knight's dad is posted. I thought it was a wonderful tribute to both Ducky and David. I missed the Great Escape moving company, but then in my area there is a chain of stores that specialize in outdoor pool sales, installations, and supplies called The Great Escape, so it probably automatically tuned out. I forgot that Knight's father was in the Far East office, but caught that cherry blossoms were sent when I thought that was the flower DC was known for. Would he also send a cactus wreath to Arizona? In the comments on a YouTube clip, there were people who though it was spite to Pauley that Abby wasn't mentioned by name, but if they were out to spite her the wreath wouldn't have been in there at all.DC was gifted te Cherry Blossoms from the Japanese.
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Post by nas on Feb 21, 2024 0:54:49 GMT
I wasn’t going to write anything more than my two word post, but your comment got me to thinking something, Hari…
of all the people the “bad guy” could have brought up [by name] during his campaign speeches, why would he choose the one person he was involved with/complicit in having killed? pretty stupid! 🙄
nas
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Post by llyan on Feb 21, 2024 1:50:37 GMT
I wasn’t going to write anything more than my two word post, but your comment got me to thinking something, Hari… of all the people the “bad guy” could have brought up [by name] during his campaign speeches, why would he choose the one person he was involved with/complicit in having killed? pretty stupid! 🙄
nas When they were talking to Councilman Berger in MTAC, Berger said that his opponent was trying to tie him to the Marine (Zawadski) that had been killed during his time in Afghanistan and make it sound nefarious. So in return, he disparaged Zawadski to score political points. Not only was Berger's opponent correct, it forced Berger out of the race. So double win for whoever was running against Berger!
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Post by Hari Seldon on Feb 21, 2024 4:34:52 GMT
So double win for whoever was running against Berger!
No guarantee he was a single bit less corrupt than Berger tho.
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Post by brgjoe on Feb 21, 2024 11:40:39 GMT
Agreed with most of you that the case of the week was a bit underwhelming. Obvious bad guy was obvious. So obvious that I was expecting a swerve at the end. Like maybe the "best friend" was the one who was behind it all. Nope. Which is still OK with me in that the episode would mostly focus on Ducky.
And as someone else mentioned, why wouldn't NCIS have a copy of the autopsy report? But I kinda fan-wanked it thinking that perhaps someone higher up told NCIS to send all copies of it to <insert agency here>. But you would think Ducky or Palmer would have known about that.
But I basically thought the episode was well done. Not too sappy (though I like sappiness on occasion), and a good use of flashbacks. I was a bit worried the entire episode might just be a series of flashback scenes. Which I always felt was kinda lazy. But I thought they interspersed them pretty well at appropriate times during the episode.
I did like the cameo of our very special agent Tony Dinozzo. When he said "Autopsy Gremlin", I yelled "YES!" at my TV screen. Good to see him back. Though I wish Mark Harmon would have graced us with his appearance as well. Even just to say a line or two. Like slapping Dinozzo on the back of the head and say, "Hey, would you stop yacking here -- we're gonna be late to the ceremony..." Or at least do or say *something*. Oh well. I guess we just don't know why MH didn't show up. Maybe he lost his SAG card or something. Who knows? Or perhaps the showrunners didn't think he should show up for one reason or another.
Anyway, I liked it and thought most everything was tastefully done. Good job Brian Dietzen and others on the writing staff.
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Post by jessielee on Feb 21, 2024 21:34:55 GMT
I guess we just don't know why MH didn't show up. Maybe he lost his SAG card or something. Who knows? Or perhaps the showrunners didn't think he should show up for one reason or another.
[/div] According to BD they tried to get Harmon, but there was a scheduling conflict and they couldn't solve that.
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Post by llyan on Feb 21, 2024 22:50:52 GMT
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Post by ballerina on Feb 21, 2024 23:09:38 GMT
I wonder if the scheduling conflict for MH was for the entire length of this season, or just for the taping of this specific episode. Still seems weird to me that MH was not there. I would rather have seen him instead of MW. I know there are people who are fans of him, but I am not one of them. Hopefully it was just this one episode, and not more.
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Post by jessielee on Feb 21, 2024 23:34:20 GMT
I wonder if the scheduling conflict for MH was for the entire length of this season, or just for the taping of this specific episode. Still seems weird to me that MH was not there. I would rather have seen him instead of MW. I know there are people who are fans of him, but I am not one of them. Hopefully it was just this one episode, and not more. Would have preferred MH as well.Not a fan of MW either. He said in an interview with Kevin Frazer that was shortly after his book release that he doesn't know if Gibbs will come back. But he would consider any acting project. He also stated that he's no longer as involved as he was before with the show. MH may be working on NCIS Origins as he's an Exec producer there as well. Since it's a new show he may be heavily involved behind the scenes. Plus who knows what else he's up to as he has several projects in development according to Imdb.
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Post by nas on Feb 22, 2024 3:25:19 GMT
reading all the comments y’all are posting about this tribute episode to Ducky/DMac I’m compelled to add another 2 cents - or maybe 2 bits… 😉
honestly, considering the writers had only 40 minutes of actual story time to work with, I thought they used it very well… all of the “I wish so & so would have showed up” or “ I would have liked to see MH”, etc., etc., might have been nice, but the episode would have had to be 90 minutes long - or a special 2 hour presentation to work in all those other people…
as it was, I thought the use of clips from past shows with Ducky talking to each of them was beautiful - AND they even managed to write a “crime of the week” into it…
I was perfectly fine with the absence of Mark Harmon; whatever his reasons may have been, the episode worked just fine without him… the emphasis stayed focused on Ducky and not about Gibbs relocating to Alaska… again, they covered that very well with the clip of Ducky talking to Palmer: “yesterday is over - change is the essence of life…” 😌
(sorry, brgjoe, we definitely did not need to see a “Gibbs head slap” in this episode; imho they were never appropriate back then, and would not have been in this episode…)
while I was not a fan of Michael Weatherly - or his character DiNozzo - his appearance was handled very well! not a word about his wife “whats’ername” - bravo! the subject stayed on Ducky and his bowtie story - Perfect!!
this is probably one of the kindest, most positive things I’ve written about an NCIS episode in a very long time… but then again it was about Ducky and David McCallum… I am ever so grateful that this episode did bring honor to his memory…
nas
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